Sea Water, Natural or Synthetic? (Which way to go?)

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by Robert Fenner
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Every few years a few standard "urban myths" (e.g. to float new arrivals or not), seem to re pop-up in our hobby. One of my favorite, and most disturbing is the issue of "real" seawater versus synthetic mixes. Here I'm referring to legitimate formulations as opposed to "Wonder Water", "Magic Ocean", and other sugar-based let's-raise-the-specific-gravity-gravity-without-increasing-the-ionic-content mixes (supposedly allowing the successful co-existence of marine and freshwater organisms). Nor do I mean to include "lobster" system water softener grade formulations in this discussion. I mean here to disparage the claims of the purveyors of so-called "natural" seawater. These assertions also apply for areas in the world with easy access to the oceans where there arises the choice for the marine aquarist to use a saltwater mix or natural water. There are, admittedly, many valid arguments pro and con for either alternative.

Economics:

The better mixes can retail for 30-40 cents per gallon or more, depending on how much you buy. "Live" ocean water costs the price of time, travel and proper filtration for you to collect and process it, or typically somewhere @$1.00-$1.50 retail per gallon to purchase.

In San Diego, free, sand-filtered seawater is available usually 24 hours a day at the base of the pier at Scripps Institute of Oceanography, U.C.S.D., La Jolla. This service is available at many other coastal towns. If you are dealing with large volumes of water the dollar savings can be considerable in treating and using this water, but it does have it's drawbacks:

Suitability:

More vital than it's expense is the water's relative ability to support marine life. Most of the more complete mixes are capable of sustaining marines for extended periods of time. The history of their use is impressive; they have been used all over the world by science, public aquaria and hobbyists alike for decades. The best available salt mixes have been demonstrated to support many invertebrates and fishes that live in close conjunction with them without further additives or modification.

Natural water that is pH/alkaline reserve checked and, if necessary, adjusted will support all forms of marine life.

Maintenance:

The strongest point against real seawater is that it "dies", both biologically and chemically more quickly than synthetics. It's a fact; you must change part of the water more frequently with natural water; depending on the size, type of set-up, filtration, et al. 5-10-20% or more a month is often recommended. Many mixes should be changed just as frequently, but often, especially in terms of appearance (yellowing) you can "cheat" more than with natural water.

Another issue good and bad concerning natural water is that it comes ready equipped with a multitude of micro- and macro-organisms. Even if the water is sediment filtered, diatomed, U-Ved, ozonized, many "things" will survive. What to do then? One or two things: 1) Place the water in a dark place for a couple of weeks before using. 2) Treat the water with copper salts, permanganate, formaldehyde, chlorine, etc. and remove the poisonous effects of the treatment before using. 3) Don't worry; consider the source. Many dealers and hobbyists pour natural water, cold turkey into their systems with impunity. I personally do not endorse item 3). I would treat all natural water as suspect and quarantine and treat accordingly.

There are pro arguments to using real water with little critters or their remains in it to start up a system. One point is that the time needed to establish bio-geo-chemical nutrient cycling (whew!) is decreased greatly. Still another beneficial factor is the ready seeding of the habitat for other microbial needs of the fishes, algaes, invertebrates. Some of the naturally occurring tiny creatures that come in live water are harmful, but most are either beneficial or benign in captive applications.

Natural water should be monitored for pH/alkaline buffering capacity at the very least, and a supply of change water or chemical preparation be kept close at hand for adjustment. Natural seawater, particularly supplies collected far from shore can exhaust it's buffering capacity quickly (within a day).

The synthetic is in a word, convenient; it serves the purpose as a viable medium for marine life and may be kept on a shelf and almost instantly made ready when need. Despite claims to the contrary, there are little deleterious effects of not pre-mixing, aerating... modern synthetic salt mixes prior to their use. Our corporation's service and retail divisions have used thousands of cases of several brands over the years without trouble for new set-ups as well as routine water changes. If the sea life involved is not otherwise challenged or compromised, you should also have no difficulty.

Trace Elements:

Are a particularly contentious, confusing issue that continues (to my bafflement) to perplex & impress aquarists. Edmund Mowka (1979, 1980) presents a concise, lucid treatment of the subject. The long and short of it is it appears that most so-called "trace" elements and compounds are:

1) Just that. Small, often transient materials of no or minuscule biological consequence.

2) Readily lost by physical, chemical and/or biological mechanisms in captive systems.

3) Much of the "trace" benefit is derived from food/nutritive sources, not from water per se.

4) For "reef" systems with substantial amounts of invertebrate and intentional algae matter, must have chemical supplementation whether natural or synthetic water is applied.

5) Basically, that there is no substantial valid argument for natural versus synthetic regarding "trace"-elements.

A Conclusion:

This is not the whole story either, but it serves to illustrate the point. In my opinion, unless you're dealing with very large volumes of water, want to devote yourself to adequate preparation and monitoring, and consciously intend to put up with the vagaries of potential pollution, pests and parasites, steer clear of natural water. Synthetic is more convenient, cheaper in total cost, easier to deal with physically, lasts longer, is safer, and it works!

Some folks assert that natural water must be best for "natural" livestock. Maybe they think their aquaria are "little pieces of the ocean"; most systems more closely approximate "little sewers". There is nothing phoney about using a synthetic salt mix in an artificial environment.
 

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Unfortunately, a lot of non San Diego Locals do not have access to Scripps. I definitely will miss it here in Chicago
 
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being a service guy i tried catalina for years. aslo used water from scripps and one other pull location thru delivery services. all pros and cons of each site. tried rodi and synthetic
with seacchem tropic marine and now the d and d.. call be trendy but to me the d and d has worked really well for me.
 

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i was using catalina water on my sps system then switched to TMP and then the colors took off. Got a couple buckets of D&D I am going to give a try.
 

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Since the scripps spiggot is 15min from my house. I use that for water changes. No I'll effects. However, many people have said that they often get algae bloom from using scripps?!? any thoughts?
 

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IMO from my own experience,
I have never found any of the filtered seawater sold/free to be consistent year round.
Yes, there are many of my service customers and installs that like the convenience of not mixing, but they usually have never ending nusance issues.algae ,diatoms,alk, smell etc..just check out the cleanliness of the water barrel at the store next time you buy some..
Yes, Iam aware of bad batches of synthetic mixes sold in the past.
its up to the user to QC as best we can.

I have visited several places (some in long beach area) and have seen the filtering process, not exactly the super duper cleaning i was expecting.
and watched them add a crap-load of buffer to "get it right" for use
there are many things that due to costs and time ,these companies just didnt do,but the water was clean enough for people to use and for the most part, most hobbyists have pretty good luck with filtered seawater
I also had a customer who worked for a municipal treatment center run some tests on various samples i gave him in his lab some years ago and he found crazy amounts of impurities, such as sulfer,lead, gasoline and petrolium by products ,that spooked me enough to stop .

when u do aquarium service for a living and you ask people to spend all kinds of money for rare or expensive livestock and good equipment, why chance it all to a questionable water source? just to save a few bucks? really?
when livestock dies, customers get upset
then they dont pay you, that is not good for business

all of these animals came from half way around the world and survived all sorts of hell to get here,just so you can put them in a clear box to watch them
why make them suffer existence in water that is not as pure as you can best provide?
all we can do is give them the best possible environment to thrive, not just survive.

right??
 

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IMO from my own experience,
I have never found any of the filtered seawater sold/free to be consistent year round.
Yes, there are many of my service customers and installs that like the convenience of not mixing, but they usually have never ending nusance issues.algae ,diatoms,alk, smell etc..just check out the cleanliness of the water barrel at the store next time you buy some..
Yes, Iam aware of bad batches of synthetic mixes sold in the past.
its up to the user to QC as best we can.

I have visited several places (some in long beach area) and have seen the filtering process, not exactly the super duper cleaning i was expecting.
and watched them add a crap-load of buffer to "get it right" for use
there are many things that due to costs and time ,these companies just didnt do,but the water was clean enough for people to use and for the most part, most hobbyists have pretty good luck with filtered seawater
I also had a customer who worked for a municipal treatment center run some tests on various samples i gave him in his lab some years ago and he found crazy amounts of impurities, such as sulfer,lead, gasoline and petrolium by products ,that spooked me enough to stop .

when u do aquarium service for a living and you ask people to spend all kinds of money for rare or expensive livestock and good equipment, why chance it all to a questionable water source? just to save a few bucks? really?
when livestock dies, customers get upset
then they dont pay you, that is not good for business

all of these animals came from half way around the world and survived all sorts of hell to get here,just so you can put them in a clear box to watch them
why make them suffer existence in water that is not as pure as you can best provide?
all we can do is give them the best possible environment to thrive, not just survive.

right??
agree...there are times of year that you might want to avoid scripps....especially during rainy seasons, red tide, etc.......I applaud you for how much you care about the animals:congrats:
 
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To make it short for the readers; what Ed was saying is stop by tom's store and get your RO/DI mixed with Oceanpure Pro salt.

All kidding aside, I think whatever work best for the customer's tank. There are customers that hate seawater and love to mix the salt themself and there are some that love seawater and hate the pre-mixed....and so on.
 
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Since the scripps spiggot is 15min from my house. I use that for water changes. No I'll effects. However, many people have said that they often get algae bloom from using scripps?!? any thoughts?
i only use scripps too & for the first time im having a lil red slime issue...never before though...hhhmmm:hmmmm:
 
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