So I bought a clam at RAP

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

As usual everything was going good until I got home, I put him in the tank and he seemed happy and was out, the next day closed up and for 4 days he is pretty much closed up. The tank is mature and I have mushrooms and anemones. At first I was getting a lot of fish swimming over head so I thought that bugged him so I move it a little over so not right down grand central in the tank. but it still is closed up. The tank is a IM Lagoon 25 ext with two AI Rimes HD.
Any ideas or directions?

OGFrenchHorn · Aug 10, 2023

Strong lighting and good flow. Feeding it phytoplankton will also help.

Are you using liquid phosphate remover? That will kill clams.

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Tangwich · Aug 10, 2023

Did you check it for pyramid snails?

joseserrano · Aug 10, 2023

Probably a water quality issue. The tanks these clams are held in have very clean water

BST310 · Aug 10, 2023

Did you drip acclimate it or just put it in the tank? Clams especially need a long drip acclimation period. I may be getting it wrong but I believe it is because they are pretty pH sensitive.

Logan killer · Aug 10, 2023

Ever clam I buy in Rap dies.......

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

OGFrenchHorn said:

Yes on lighting and good flow, and I feed phytoplankton for the first time last night.
No I have not used phosphate remover while the clam has been in the tank.

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

Tangwich said:

I am not sure what Pyramid snails look like so I will google it.

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

joseserrano said:

Good be, my water is not that bad but as usual use some work, I will check it and post it.

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

Logan killer said:

I am bummed to hear that. I hate to lose corals and fish.

moondoggy · Aug 10, 2023

BST310 said:

I did not drip acclimate, I pour water in the bag slowly, waited until I doubled the water volume.

JojosReef · Aug 10, 2023

What kind of clam is it? Where is it placed? Do you know how much PAR it is getting? I see you have two AI primes--ideal location would be in a hot spot where the lights overlap. You cannot give a clam too much light (except perhaps during light acclimation).

moondoggy · Aug 11, 2023

So I am 99.9% sure this clams is dead, it fell over and I tried to move it the foot was dissolved, and the clam is clam shut.
It is hard to believe that it could die in 5 days. This is why I keep trying to be strong and not buy coral from RAP, I do much better buying from people's systems at home. So I am super bummed.

Flame_Angle · Aug 11, 2023

I was at Rap on Sat morning. Stop by the clams booth and saw the tank water very cloudy. I was scare and walk away.
Sorry to hear your loss

Tangwich · Aug 11, 2023

I recently bought a couple clams (maxima & squamosa) from PIA and they came in super clean (no pests) and have done amazing in my tank. I have them under sps lighting around 300+ par. They were a bit pricier than other places but you get what u...u know the rest.

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joseserrano · Aug 11, 2023

Don’t think it was the clam or show. I know where they are kept. They are not mishandled or kept for a short time. This is likely water quality. If corals didn’t do well from shows, this would be known and ppl would not buy.

drexel · Aug 11, 2023

Not acclimating the clam is certainly can cause some major issues, unless your parameters were identical to the water they cam from? All clams require a lot of light, as they come from very shallow waters. Phyto is completely unnecessary for clams, but can help ailing clams recover. They gather 99% of their energy from light, but do require some nitrogen intake, which is easy enough if you feed your fish. My guess is the lack of acclimation was the initial shock and the clam didn't have enough time to recover. Clams are very complex animals that have organs, heart, stomach, gills, etc...so they need to acclimate very slowly to new conditions. Maxima and crocea require more light than squamosa, derasa and gigas, but I treat all clams the same and give them as much light as I can. If you want to keep clams or are considering keeping clams, then buy James Fatherree's new book on clams, it's $36 or so on Amazon and he's about to release a second addition very soon.

Bck2hobby · Aug 11, 2023

Flame_Angle said:

i was at their booth as it was happening - guy stated it was mating time. Went back later and water was murkier and had gunk floating around. Happened right around when the show started, i got in at about 1110 or so Saturday morning.

moondoggy · Aug 11, 2023

I guess being an Monkey's Uncle and have a 1 in million clam, it appears to be still a live, but clearly not doing well.

JojosReef · Aug 11, 2023

I'm sorry about that loss. If it was the vendor I'm guessing, I saw them at CFM and was very unimpressed. In contrast to what @drexel said, the vendor tried selling me on the idea that croceas are the easiest to keep and only need 200 PAR, people on the forum don't know anything, and a bit more blah blah, but I lost track because I couldn't take my eyes of a huge aiptasia sitting in the slot of a clam and wondering if that clam was going to make it.

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