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I always send two ICP out. One to triton one to ICP analysis. I compare the two and go from there. They normally aren’t that much different from each other. Which reminds me time to send out again


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Where you send the icp test to?
icp analysis lol.. I have several sitting around. Hopefully they’re somewhat on the realm for accurate at least telling me if I have a lot of zinc or not

but I’ll probably send in a triton or ati for my dt soon
 

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Sorry not standard but calculated reference value* Seems to be the acceptable level looking at the test.

I just looked back through my tests on this tank and there never been a registered level of copper. I do get zinc 1-3 ug/l at times and aluminum bounces around 28-60

but I've been neomarine the whole time
 
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got the metabsorb so tossed that in

so 2/20 this year i had 0 zinc and 0.1 ppm copper

then by 6/30 i had (in ppb thanks icp analysis, so converted to ppm) 0.14457 ppm zinc. idk if that's a lot? barely any? triton said it was off the scale bad so i'm going to go with them. for copper it looks like icp analysis was saying 0.03772 ppm



anyway, idk that copper level doesn't seem overly concerning.. but the zinc level does seem to be. i'm back to thinking it's not salt related rather pump related. or something in there that i dropped or something, that'd be great. i guess i'll be doing a real thorough check of the sump
 
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i am seeing a lot of unhappy frags tho, so i'd say something is definitely wrong. beyond my usual high nutrients at least. some stuff that has been in there awhile and made it through some less than ideal conditions is suddenly stning/dying. easy stuff too like anacropora/digis/ORA stuff. so the search continues
 
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i did a fairly thorough inspection/cleaning of stuff yesterday. return pump and both octopulse pumps looked totally fine, no issues near magnets or impellers. checked the heater too, it's only a few months old so not surprising no issues

still some more equipment to check, but idk..

i also got the tropic marin salt and mixed that up to 1.026 and just checked copper level and it was 0.12, so it seems there's just some low level of copper in seawater :unsure:

despite running cuprisorb and metabsorb the last week plus, i tested my dt and it still has 0.08 copper. i worry a bit about stripping all of these trace elements, so i think i'll take that offline and do a water change or two and then send in another icp test

i also dug in a bit on the triton test as apparently there's a help tab giving me info on bad stuff

Due to excessively high P/PO4 readings it has not been possible to accuratly test for Iodine
Lower P/PO4 value by using AL99 or ROWAphos phospate remover, then retest.
so the high iodine level is a question mark at best

Your Iron levels are too high.

Check for possible contamination source. To help you in finding the source of error, we have listed them the most common sources of iron (sorted in descending order of frequency):

1. Trace element overdose / contamination
2. Metals near or in the aquarium (as rusty clamps or screws)
3. Iron based Phosphate remover (too much flow in reactor)
4. Low pH in the aquarium
so iron i was dosing hoping to cause algae growth to outcompete dinos, unfortunate timing as i can't tell if i have an iron problem, overdosed it myself, or it's a combination of the two

Your Zinc levels are too high.

Check for possible contamination source. To assist you in finding the source of error, we have listed the most common sources of zinc (sorted in descending order of frequency):

1. Contaminated trace elements
2. Hand Cream applied before working in the aquarium
3. Contaminated salts
so zinc apparently isn't even a result of a bad magnet or something of that sort. maybe i have some bad trace elements? i really don't dose trace elements often as they seem to cause dinocyano ime, but i can't say i never dose them..

Your Lithium levels are too high.

Check for possible contamination source. To help you in your search for the source of error, we have listed them the most common lithium sources (sorted in descending order of frequency):

1. Trace element overdose / contamination
2. Contaminated salts / contaminated magnesium salts
3. Artificial Rock/ Reef ceramics
4. Food
i've heard IO salt just has a higher than normal lithium level, but again rusting magnet not a cause of this apparently

so.. idk. i'm gonna keep trying to look for a rusting magnet/impeller source, give the TM salt a whirl for a bit, and not dose any trace elements and see where i'm at i guess. and keep hands out of the water, although i'm always hesitant to put hands in the water and i definitely don't do it after putting on hand lotions or anything of that sort

one thing i thought about is i added a bunch of fiji rock a few months back and it was from a tank breakdown of some local guy. he had it sitting outside, so i gave it a bleach bath and thorough rinse/dry before ever using it, but if rocks can leech copper i wonder if that could be it? that'd be really not ideal, but i also really doubt that being the issue
 

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Maybe bleach the Saltwater container you're storing your water in? Who knows but it may have leached in the container and equipment? Finally, test RO water and verify 0. If so then put RO water in your saltwater container with equipment inside and then test to see if something is leaching it?
 
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i tested the RODI myself and got 0 copper. i had ICP analysis upload the results too

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i mixed this most recent batch of saltwater in a different brute than i normally use, so i don't think it's that. IO even told me there's a small amount of copper in there so i think it's just in all salts
 
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There is copper in the unit, less than 0.015 of it. So you are good.





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idk if that's ppm or ppb or what, but apparently he's acknowledging there's some in there. yet most people report no copper on their icp tests, so who the hell knows
 
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got the results back for the 20g

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so no copper in there and apparently "low" on zinc. but super high aluminum and higher than comfortable iodine and lithium

so safe to say the issue isn't the salt and it's a problem in my dt somewhere somehow

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rodi results for good measure. phosphorus high apparently suddenly converted to ppm 0.104 phosphate

but no heavy metals or zinc crap in there
 

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Have you tried an ATI icp yet? I’ve heard the IcP analysis is not very reliable at all. ATI tests tank and rodi with one kit. My last 2 results have gotten back in 7 days. That’s shipped to analysis
 
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Have you tried an ATI icp yet? I’ve heard the IcP analysis is not very reliable at all. ATI tests tank and rodi with one kit. My last 2 results have gotten back in 7 days. That’s shipped to analysis
I haven’t tried theirs yet, but yeah I have my doubts on icp analysis too so I have another triton one otw

on the plus side I think I figured this out last night at 2 am

my algae free magnet cleaner thing.. totally rusted. I don’t keep it in the tank except to clean glass and totally didn’t notice the inner portion of it was super rusted. I even cut my finger trying to remove it.. so I think that was it. Gonna keep checking out the rest of the equipment just in case but that sure seems like the problem
 

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