Quarantine practice

[Fishrfriend]

Looking for clarity on how to quarantine my marine fish. Following humblefish process of copperpower and general cure. Other folks use furan 2 in addition to copper amd gc.... any tjoughts

 

[mattyzang]

well.. if memory serves his standard process is pretty aggressive, basically 2 weeks of 2.0-2.5 copper power (ramp slowly over several days) and general cure in water column 6-7 days apart based on the prazi calculator and then transfer into a sterile tank and observe + feed medicated food for at least a couple more weeks

furan 2 is for bacterial issues which seem to occur during copper treatment. i don't believe he recommends prophylactically dosing that. if you run into bacterial issues it's generally recommended you dose "the trifecta" which is furan 2, kanaplex, and metroplex

 

[Fishrfriend]

Thanks for the feedback. Question: I thought GC already have metro? Also, shld I dose the furan 2 even if I dont see any bacterial issue?

 

[Dvon0605]

Thanks for the feedback. Question: I thought GC already have metro? Also, shld I dose the furan 2 even if I dont see any bacterial issue?

So this is how I run my qt which is based off of humblefish procedure with a few minor changes. My fish go through 30 days of copper power. I usually start them off at 1.0 ppm and ramp up over a few days unless it is a wrasse or anthias in which case it is 7 days. The first 14 days they are fed frozen that is soaked in seachem focus, vitachem, metroplex, kanaplex, and furan 2. It is much more effective to feed antibiotics than just dosing into the water column. Many times new fish come in with parasites and the injuries caused by them can turn into bacterial infections pretty quick. This of course is only effective if the fish eats the food but its normally not an issue. Day 24 the first dose of general cure is administered and then again on day 29 for flukes. Lmk if you need any help. I am a strong advocate for fish qt and I think you'll find success with fish will dramatically increase after qt!

 

[Fishrfriend]

Thanks. Will def hit u up for qt questions...

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[Fishrfriend]

So this is how I run my qt which is based off of humblefish procedure with a few minor changes. My fish go through 30 days of copper power. I usually start them off at 1.0 ppm and ramp up over a few days unless it is a wrasse or anthias in which case it is 7 days. The first 14 days they are fed frozen that is soaked in seachem focus, vitachem, metroplex, kanaplex, and furan 2. It is much more effective to feed antibiotics than just dosing into the water column. Many times new fish come in with parasites and the injuries caused by them can turn into bacterial infections pretty quick. This of course is only effective if the fish eats the food but its normally not an issue. Day 24 the first dose of general cure is administered and then again on day 29 for flukes. Lmk if you need any help. I am a strong advocate for fish qt and I think you'll find success with fish will dramatically increase after qt!

How often do you do water changes during QT? I used Coppersafe for copper running between 2.0 to 2.3 PPM. For some reason, my API test kit will show zero ammonia but somewhat high Nitrite. I also have a seachem ammonia badge that shows the same ammonia level as the API test. Dont understand why Nitirtes keeps showing high eventhough ammonia reads zero.

 

[Dvon0605]

How often do you do water changes during QT? I used Coppersafe for copper running between 2.0 to 2.3 PPM. For some reason, my API test kit will show zero ammonia but somewhat high Nitrite. I also have a seachem ammonia badge that shows the same ammonia level as the API test. Dont understand why Nitirtes keeps showing high eventhough ammonia reads zero.

So because I have such a high volume of fish, I do 100% water changes every week. Also, it makes it easier to maintain copper levels because I just pre dose in the new water. That may not apply to you though. I would not worry about nitrites as it is not toxic to saltwater fish. Its often confused with freshwater since it is very deadly to freshwater

 

[Dominic]

Have you thought about the TTM by humblefish? I haven’t had a problem since starting it!

 

[resortez]

Other practices that seem to work well for me are hyposalinity & higher temperatures. From my understanding, the parasites dont like lower gravity & the higher temps speed up the metabolic rate.

 

[Dvon0605]

Have you thought about the TTM by humblefish? I haven’t had a problem since starting it!

Yes but for the volume of fish I have in stock its not feasible to do TTM. It is a great method that is easy on the fish. Do you combine it with hydrogen peroxide treatments with TTM?

 

[Dvon0605]

Other practices that seem to work well for me are hyposalinity & higher temperatures. From my understanding, the parasites dont like lower gravity & the higher temps speed up the metabolic rate.

Do you drop salinity to 1.009 for hypo? I run my tanks at 1.019 to match wholesale salinity as well as it allows more oxygen saturation. I also actually run lower temps as well for the same reason

 

[Dominic]

Yes but for the volume of fish I have in stock its not feasible to do TTM. It is a great method that is easy on the fish. Do you combine it with hydrogen peroxide treatments with TTM?

Yes I do!

 

[resortez]

Do you drop salinity to 1.009 for hypo? I run my tanks at 1.019 to match wholesale salinity as well as it allows more oxygen saturation. I also actually run lower temps as well for the same reason

I also drop it to 1.019. If the fish is severely infected, I’ll push it to 1.017.