Quarantined fish

[Darth Wader]

Yea I talked to age of aquariums about 2 weeks ago and they told me the QT all their fish.

 

[mattyzang]

You are one of few then, I feel like they would be able to attach to expose skeleton like on torches

yeah something like that would be a question mark

i got velvet last winter is why i'm more paranoid than most

 

[anthonys_aqua]

yeah something like that would be a question mark

i got velvet last winter is why i'm more paranoid than most

I got it a couple months ago too, im sure it came on a frag cause I hadnt added fishes in 2 months prior

 

[anthonys_aqua]

Yea I talked to age of aquariums about 2 weeks ago and they told me the QT all their fish.

Id have to ask them about there procedures, a lot of places say they do and its half assed. Issue is they keep corals/inverts all in the same system which is basically cross contaminating everything

 

[Bouncingsoul393]

Yea I talked to age of aquariums about 2 weeks ago and they told me the QT all their fish.

Dan isn’t an honest person. He says whatever people want to hear to get a sale. not to start a drama but i worked there briefly and the store was a shit show and it was not a good experience. at that time they held fish in the back room in a jank system for about a week or so with copper water that was never tested and put Prazi in the showroom tanks. Maybe it’s changed since then but I really doubt it.

 

[erickjohnsonaz]

Id have to ask them about there procedures, a lot of places say they do and its half assed. Issue is they keep corals/inverts all in the same system which is basically cross contaminating everything

So, It is actually safe to keep coral and inverts in the same QT together if you are QTing for fish parasites as long as there are no fish in the system. Fish parasites need fish as part of their life cycle. an invert can not "infect" an exposed coral skeleton with an existing fish parasite.

It is actually safe to add new inverts and coral to a fishless QT. Because of the life cycle of the parasites. Here is a great illustration originally done by MarineDepot of Ich. As long as you don't take those out of QT before their 76 days is up. You can have a rolling coral/inver QT system safely. (Beware of the water in that system, though)

Notice that in the infection stage (Theront ) the parasite must find a fish to feed on within 48-72 hours or it starves. That ends the cycle. The reason we QT inverts and corals for fish parasites is that the Tomont / Tomite can release Theronts for up to 72 days. (72+3+1 for safety = 76 days)

 

[anthonys_aqua]

So, It is actually safe to keep coral and inverts in the same QT together if you are QTing for fish parasites as long as there are no fish in the system. Fish parasites need fish as part of their life cycle. an invert can not "infect" an exposed coral skeleton with an existing fish parasite.

It is actually safe to add new inverts and coral to a fishless QT. Because of the life cycle of the parasites. Here is a great illustration originally done by MarineDepot of Ich. As long as you don't take those out of QT before their 76 days is up. You can have a rolling coral/inver QT system safely. (Beware of the water in that system, though)

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Notice that in the infection stage (Theront ) the parasite must find a fish to feed on within 48-72 hours or it starves. That ends the cycle. The reason we QT inverts and corals for fish parasites is that the Tomont / Tomite can release Theronts for up to 72 days. (72+3+1 for safety = 76 days)

By same system I mean that the corals/invert share the system with the fishes, so there goes the qt. If you qt your fishes and then you put them into the same system you keep non qted inverts/corals you will likely be getting some parasite.

 

[mattyzang]

The fish in option for coral/invert qt is to use black mollies converted from freshwater

in theory if the corals bring in a disease the black mollies will have no immunity since they’re freshwater and being all black you should spot diseases easier

but it kinda requires you to be fairly attentive and be able to ID diseases so idk how great it is

 

[anthonys_aqua]

The fish in option for coral/invert qt is to use black mollies converted from freshwater

in theory if the corals bring in a disease the black mollies will have no immunity since they’re freshwater and being all black you should spot diseases easier

but it kinda requires you to be fairly attentive and be able to ID diseases so idk how great it is

my plan regardless is was to have a frag tank/invert qt together, get some stuff then leave it in there for 76 days, at the moment im using my old dt as that

 

[mattyzang]

my plan regardless is was to have a frag tank/invert qt together, get some stuff then leave it in there for 76 days, at the moment im using my old dt as that

i'm not personally a fan of it, just figured i'd toss it out there

i tried using black mollies in post qt observation and the problem is mollies kinda suck and i'd find them just randomly dead and stuck to the powerhead, so then it's like what happened here? disease? or bested by this 200gph powerhead? do i then extend qt out of caution?

i figure it's just easier to just do fishless and eliminate the variable that's most problematic

 

[anthonys_aqua]

i'm not personally a fan of it, just figured i'd toss it out there

i tried using black mollies in post qt observation and the problem is mollies kinda suck and i'd find them just randomly dead and stuck to the powerhead, so then it's like what happened here? disease? or bested by this 200gph powerhead? do i then extend qt out of caution?

i figure it's just easier to just do fishless and eliminate the variable that's most problematic

oh no im using black mollies, i tried. my clowns destroyed them