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Hmmmmm no signs of corrosion on my jebao return but there is an issue.

Its rated for 13800 L/H so about 3600 g/h.

Vectra m2 is rated around 3k g/h if I remember right.

With the return being one of the main differences between the tanks I said screw it and swapped them.

it clicked on at 50% and completely drained my return chamber….. I dropped it down to 1 dot and the water level still could not keep up! I cracked my gate open on the main drain more it leveled out.
That damn Jebao wasn’t actually pushing shit for flow this whole time.
With most of my issues popping up at night I wonder if a contributing factor could be temperature drops in the display?

I’m realizing as I type I’m a complete freaking tool, my heaters are under the socks and my probe holder is before the return. The heaters are too long to fit in my returns like I normally would place them. so now I’m wondering if with the super slow flow, if my heaters were able to pre heat the water and give a false reading based off sump temperatures? Maybe the display is getting much cooler? I think I’m going to move my temp sensor to my overflow or at least where the sock section is to get a true display temp.
 

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Move your temp probe to your display over night and see what that reads.


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That's what I'm thinking too. Although I think now that the m2 is installed I have plenty of flow. I can max out the 1" drain if I want. That flex pvc really keeps the flow pressure low apparently, thing moves tons of water now.
 

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I was actually trying to remember what system I ran it on before and I think it was my 180g for a bit. I'm wondering if it lines up with time period where that system was having issues at night? Be nice to get lucky finding that as a possible stressor.
 

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I think if your temp fluctuates 10 degrees or more in a day, then maybe that would stress things out, but that’s a pretty big swing. I used to have 5 or 6 degree difference during the summer when I was running halides on my nano in the 90’s, but I never saw any major issues related to temp swings. Of course, it wasn’t a full on sps tank either. Buy one of those cheap digital aquarium thermometers and put that in your display for easy viewing.


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I think if your temp fluctuates 10 degrees or more in a day, then maybe that would stress things out, but that’s a pretty big swing. I used to have 5 or 6 degree difference during the summer when I was running halides on my nano in the 90’s, but I never saw any major issues related to temp swings. Of course, it wasn’t a full on sps tank either. Buy one of those cheap digital aquarium thermometers and put that in your display for easy viewing.


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Yeah didn't appear to be a quick fix. TCK supersonic went up in smoke last night. The temperature road right at 77.7 where I have my first heater kick on.

My wife went to bed last and closed the window I normally leave cracked, ph hit 7.7 due to that. I feel like that is a reoccurring theme for me with over night loses, low ph.

today is the 3rd day of Detox, so I'll be adding the cuprisorb back and some carbon.

I will say with the better turn over rate through the sump my water is much clearer than before.
 

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I'm starting to consider a witch hazel treatment once I'm pretty certain all metals are removed. I'm wondering if that could stop a delayed reaction?

I'm going to pull apart my mixing bin and check the heater and pump today. I mixed a few batches of IO for my QT tank and theres a bunch of that brown muck, I want to make sure it's just the IO sludge in there.
 

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I tried the witch hazel treatment a few times, can’t say for sure if it helped or not? If it’s a bacterial issue, then it could help, but pathogen or anything else, who knows? Start with a double dose the first night, then regular afterwards. Prodibio every other day, I think? Andre has the new protocol on FB and probably his website too. Good luck!


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Checking in to see how things are going?


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Well I haven't tried the witch hazel yet.

Unfortunately I'm still just losing acros. I sent out an ICP yesterday to see where the metals are at.


The positive side is it's only acropora at this point. Sucks for someone shooting for acro dominant reef, but at least the fish are healthy and everything else is looking pretty good. I'll take what I can get at this point (y) Trying not to get to irritated with it and just accept this could be a lull that I just gotta ride out while continuing to troubleshoot as best I can.
 

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Man that sucks. Was hoping your system had turned the corner. Anyway to set up a temporary holding tank that you know is free of metals in the interim?
 

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Man that sucks. Was hoping your system had turned the corner. Anyway to set up a temporary holding tank that you know is free of metals in the interim?
I don't have anything sitting around to use, or even the space to really do it. I'm gonna see what this ICP test says and go from there. I checked the overflow, ran a magnet through the sand. I check the my skimmer pump and just installed a different return pump so I know those are good.

I've gone through a box of neomarine so far. I think before I start working on the second one I'm going to tear down my mixing station and get eyes on the waterblaster pump and heater, give everything a citric acid bath and start fresh.
 

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Also, the fallout from contamination (or other issues) can take weeks, if not months to manifest. I've found that some sps can ride it out, while others seem to go up out of the blue. There's definitely a delayed reaction with a lot of corals, especially with sps.
 

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I hear that. I'm trying to mentally prepare. The part I don't like is I feel most have started a color shift that mimics what the ones that died did. I'm surprised to see about half my confetti colony toast as we speak, umph
 

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That sucks! My confetti is bouncing back slowly, so I'll have a nice chunk of it for you if you need it? I'm so busy with work right now, that I barely have time to feed the fish. And I'm about 20ft away from the tank in my studio. Hopefully your ICP comes back improved.
 

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That sucks! My confetti is bouncing back slowly, so I'll have a nice chunk of it for you if you need it? I'm so busy with work right now, that I barely have time to feed the fish. And I'm about 20ft away from the tank in my studio. Hopefully your ICP comes back improved.
It'll be on my list eventually, one of my favorite pieces.

For now I'm just looking at the things doing well and riding it out
 

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Not gonna lie this shit is getting old. Copper has actually gone up from 3.27 on the last test to 4.97 and tin from 40 to 44. Aluminum has been pulled down to 18 from 27 .

Still got zinc showing up after fresh di/silicate buster stages, this is in my main FW bin.

Something has to be corroding in the system somewhere.

Skimmer checked out
Return pump checked out
sicce pumps checked out that feeds UV and Algae reactor.


I'm gonna pull my tunze stuff today. wavebox and pumps and go through those magnets. Pull the algae reactor and check the light. Check the heaters.

Not sure what could be causing it on my CARX, but I may pull that since my uptake is so low right now and just start dosing.

I should check my lighting as well. Maybe a kessil has some rust and is blowing it into the tank? I'll have to pull the fans and peak in the ATI body as well, that had been stored in a shed. Maybe the internals are rusted.

Sift through the sand more, flashlight the overflow.
 

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