Tariffs
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Did you even read that article before you linked it?
every one of those 5 instances were for another crime. what was the "other crime"?
New York Penal Law § 175.10 defines the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree. It's a class E felony, meaning a conviction could result in up to four years in prison. Specifically, this crime is committed when a person falsifies business records, and their intent to defraud includes the intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission of another crime.
every one of those 5 instances were for another crime. what was the "other crime"?
New York Penal Law § 175.10 defines the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree. It's a class E felony, meaning a conviction could result in up to four years in prison. Specifically, this crime is committed when a person falsifies business records, and their intent to defraud includes the intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission of another crime.
Yes, every one of them had an underlying felony. But not Trump. It’s not even a crime without an underlying felony.
Just so you understand. The 33 charges. 2 parties entered into a NDA (NonDisclosure Agreement) it is a very common legal agreement, most anyone with a career is a party to at least one NDA. Trump’s lawyer billed Trump 11 times for those legal expenses, the Trump AP recorded 11 entries for legal expenses and made 11 payments to President Trump’s lawyer for legal expenses. Those are the 33 counts. All of that is 100% legal without the 34th count which has to be a felony. It’s perfectly legal for me to record a bill for legal services as “grape nuts” or “lift rental” or whatever I want, it’s done all the time so long as it is not in the furtherance of an underlying felony. Also, paying for an NDA is a “legal expense”.
What was the 34th count?
Just so you understand. The 33 charges. 2 parties entered into a NDA (NonDisclosure Agreement) it is a very common legal agreement, most anyone with a career is a party to at least one NDA. Trump’s lawyer billed Trump 11 times for those legal expenses, the Trump AP recorded 11 entries for legal expenses and made 11 payments to President Trump’s lawyer for legal expenses. Those are the 33 counts. All of that is 100% legal without the 34th count which has to be a felony. It’s perfectly legal for me to record a bill for legal services as “grape nuts” or “lift rental” or whatever I want, it’s done all the time so long as it is not in the furtherance of an underlying felony. Also, paying for an NDA is a “legal expense”.
What was the 34th count?
Well, the crazy tariffs are postponed until July 9, so we got a little reprieve. I think the businesses are betting on Trump chickening out again, and kicking the can down the road.
The funny thing is that I thought the idea was for jobs to be coming back to the US. But I guess we just shifting jobs from China to Vietnam, and basically paying more for importing the same goods.
The funny thing is that I thought the idea was for jobs to be coming back to the US. But I guess we just shifting jobs from China to Vietnam, and basically paying more for importing the same goods.
People just need to understand that US consumers pay the Trump tariffs, not the other country. When tariffs is 20% higher, that means we just got a 20% price hike at the store. US businesses have to pay this tariff to US customs when importing goods, and the US businesses pass along that cost to the consumers with higher prices.
Ultimately, the latest deal with Vietnam has US consumers pay 20% tariffs instead of 46% from Vietnam.
We may decrease reliance on China on deal with Vietnam, but what they don't say is that many of these factories in Vietnam are owned by Chinese anyways. They are right across the border to Vietnam, so it's not hard for the Chinese to just move the factory and keep ownership. We need a better strategy. I would strengthen trade and build supply chain in our neighboring countries like Canada and Mexico instead of Vietnam (incentives to build in North America), but the opposite is happening.
Ultimately, the latest deal with Vietnam has US consumers pay 20% tariffs instead of 46% from Vietnam.
We may decrease reliance on China on deal with Vietnam, but what they don't say is that many of these factories in Vietnam are owned by Chinese anyways. They are right across the border to Vietnam, so it's not hard for the Chinese to just move the factory and keep ownership. We need a better strategy. I would strengthen trade and build supply chain in our neighboring countries like Canada and Mexico instead of Vietnam (incentives to build in North America), but the opposite is happening.
Very true. I get stuff my wife uses for bodybuilding from another country and what I pay has doubled with the tariffs.
Here’s the fact a lot American companies have moved their manufacturing out of the country. For one cheaper labor and less regulations. These corporations say they can’t afford these tariffs yet at the same time the owners and CEOs are makes millions even billions in net worth every year while front line employees barely make minimum wage. Take Walmart for instance since they are one of the largest complainers of the tariffs
CEO makes
This is straight up greed
Okay let’s look at the Walton family
Looks like more greed to me
Let’s look at Walmart as a corporation
Now let’s look at what an average clerk makes a year working at Walmart
This is fucking straight up greed. The owners of the companies can’t take a little loss in hundred of millions of dollars to help stimulate growth in America
Here’s the fact a lot American companies have moved their manufacturing out of the country. For one cheaper labor and less regulations. These corporations say they can’t afford these tariffs yet at the same time the owners and CEOs are makes millions even billions in net worth every year while front line employees barely make minimum wage. Take Walmart for instance since they are one of the largest complainers of the tariffs
CEO makes
This is straight up greed
Okay let’s look at the Walton family
Looks like more greed to me
Let’s look at Walmart as a corporation
Now let’s look at what an average clerk makes a year working at Walmart
This is fucking straight up greed. The owners of the companies can’t take a little loss in hundred of millions of dollars to help stimulate growth in America
Let’s have some fun with number on the Walton family. Now take a hundred million day and times it by how many days Walmart is open. They only close on Christmas and Thanksgiving.
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Let’s see what the interest is on that much money.
If this isn’t greed then please explain to me what is.
Walmart has no fucking business complaining about tariffs.
Yet all you guys bitches and moaning about these tariffs read the god dam facts. You guys are being brainwashed by billionaires and millionaires that could give a rats ass about the standard American. They want us fighting amongst ourselves so they can do the pick pocket magic scam right in front of your eyes and some are just to fucking stupid to realize that most these businesses owners and politicians are all on the same team.
They don’t take pay cuts when times get tough, no they lay people off. The work at these companies still has to get done so they make the rest pick up the slack and don’t give the employees that are still working a raise. Not at all, the CEOs still make their salaries.
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Let’s see what the interest is on that much money.
If this isn’t greed then please explain to me what is.
Walmart has no fucking business complaining about tariffs.
Yet all you guys bitches and moaning about these tariffs read the god dam facts. You guys are being brainwashed by billionaires and millionaires that could give a rats ass about the standard American. They want us fighting amongst ourselves so they can do the pick pocket magic scam right in front of your eyes and some are just to fucking stupid to realize that most these businesses owners and politicians are all on the same team.
They don’t take pay cuts when times get tough, no they lay people off. The work at these companies still has to get done so they make the rest pick up the slack and don’t give the employees that are still working a raise. Not at all, the CEOs still make their salaries.
Couldn't agree more, corporations are pure greedy bastards who could care less about the American worker/family. Citizens United sealed our fate, the power and money that flows into DC to their benefit is staggering. Manufacturing will never return to the US because of this, yet people vote against their own self interest. It really doesn't take a lot of effort to find out what's going on, but it's so easy to throw hot button topics/issues at people to distract them from what's really going on.
A lot has to do with the regulation too. I work for a soda beverage company and in the last 5ys the company has pulled 90% of the bottling facilities out of California and moved them to Arizona and Colorado. It’s cheaper for the company to manufacture beverages out of state and ship them in by truck or train than it is to produce in cali. Thats a lot of jobs lost in the state. The sad part is we fucking voted for this in the name of clean energy and climate change. Yet as a country the USA only contributes about 15% of to the green house emissions of the world. The USA has no control over the other 85% of green house emissions
Let’s face the facts no one on this site can sit here and say they truly care about carbon pollution or they are 100% decades to lowering emissions.
That phone you’re using to suffer this site has a carbon footprint. From the factories that are used to assemble it, to the heavy machinery used to mine the precious metals from the earth for the chips and batteries.
Just like or aquarium. The plastics refined from petroleum, the lights also made from precious metals, the RO water filters we use to purify the water, what do you do with the exhausted filter? Toss them in the trash to root in a landfill. The plastics all our foods are packed in, that shit sites in a landfill after they get tossed in the garbage.
If you aren’t living like is 1800 by farming off natural or living off candle light then you have no fucking business claiming global warming or climate change. Because your bitch ass is contributing to the fucking problem.
That phone you’re using to suffer this site has a carbon footprint. From the factories that are used to assemble it, to the heavy machinery used to mine the precious metals from the earth for the chips and batteries.
Just like or aquarium. The plastics refined from petroleum, the lights also made from precious metals, the RO water filters we use to purify the water, what do you do with the exhausted filter? Toss them in the trash to root in a landfill. The plastics all our foods are packed in, that shit sites in a landfill after they get tossed in the garbage.
If you aren’t living like is 1800 by farming off natural or living off candle light then you have no fucking business claiming global warming or climate change. Because your bitch ass is contributing to the fucking problem.
The truth is that non billionaires voted for it and that’s that. So If you’re a billionaire this will not impact you severely. If you’re not a billionaire, then
make friends with wholesalers and importers for the best prices.
objectively, if you don’t like tariffs you can blame the red hats, or start a revolution by storming the capital and hope you get pardoned, or live with it until the next election and see everything get reversed
I know this sucks and we can only do our best to help new hobbyists by giving them frags and advice, and help our existing community by doing the same for them.
let me know what I can do to help our community
make friends with wholesalers and importers for the best prices.
objectively, if you don’t like tariffs you can blame the red hats, or start a revolution by storming the capital and hope you get pardoned, or live with it until the next election and see everything get reversed
I know this sucks and we can only do our best to help new hobbyists by giving them frags and advice, and help our existing community by doing the same for them.
let me know what I can do to help our community
