Yeah I’ve been getting seriously into torches lately and the problem I find is that vendors sure like to name things, but they don’t back up the name with any characteristics or standard. When we ask what’s the lineage, all that we are saying is that we trust that a bunch of people saw a particular coral from a vendor and found it to be extraordinary. The problem is there is no way to trust that even a coral coming from a particular vendor is really from the same lineage. Also there is nothing that says the named coral is the best lineage of its type. Quite frankly I’m sure there are many corals in many peoples tanks and in the wild that are superior in many ways. I wish people would stop naming things without giving standards to measure them by. IMHO I think the ASD style HG is totally worth the hype. I have two types myself that I love! One type is the usual green base, with yellow stripes and dark blue tips and another one that is almost identical but has a blue stripe at base of the tentacle or septa.