I was wondering if there was a set way of determining an "onyx" clown. I bought a pair of small clowns back in november and one of the two has developed a lot of black in him over the last month and the other is starting to do the same. they were not purchased as onyx and I honestly did not know anything about onyx clowns till a few weeks ago when someone asked me if mine where. I was just wondering how onyx is determined. thanks for the info
definition of an onyx clown
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well.. since they are my favorite type of clowns and I've spent a small fortune collecting them in the pass three years.. I think I needa cue into this...
Though unlike the picasso and snowflake morphs which differentiate into classes by amount of whitening (which is still subjective on occasion). The onyx breed on the other hand has not receive the same attention and from my experience, extremely subjective.
One issue I'm bothered by is when black and white clowns (occellaris) is considered onyx (a certain extremely large fish store in OC do it all the time). IMHO, they're strictly True Perculas
The vague definition of onyx to my knowledge is an extra amount of blackening on the true perc's body... In that case, many hobbyist consider example 1 as an onyx.
If someone insist that example 1 is an onyx then so be it. There's no official definition or publication in a respected journal for me to debate and skew one's opinion to feel otherwise. Regardless of how flawed I feel theirs might be. hahaha..
What crosses the line for me to be considered onyx is connecting blackening between the clowns first and last line. Like this example..
I consider these guys 'high' grade onyx because their black coloring is almost entirely filled in. Extremely difficult to find wild caught like these. But in most cases, you'll find 'regular' onyx that aren't colored in entirely with black but does have connecting black inbetween the white lines...
Though unlike the picasso and snowflake morphs which differentiate into classes by amount of whitening (which is still subjective on occasion). The onyx breed on the other hand has not receive the same attention and from my experience, extremely subjective.
One issue I'm bothered by is when black and white clowns (occellaris) is considered onyx (a certain extremely large fish store in OC do it all the time). IMHO, they're strictly True Perculas
The vague definition of onyx to my knowledge is an extra amount of blackening on the true perc's body... In that case, many hobbyist consider example 1 as an onyx.
If someone insist that example 1 is an onyx then so be it. There's no official definition or publication in a respected journal for me to debate and skew one's opinion to feel otherwise. Regardless of how flawed I feel theirs might be. hahaha..
What crosses the line for me to be considered onyx is connecting blackening between the clowns first and last line. Like this example..
I consider these guys 'high' grade onyx because their black coloring is almost entirely filled in. Extremely difficult to find wild caught like these. But in most cases, you'll find 'regular' onyx that aren't colored in entirely with black but does have connecting black inbetween the white lines...
Yeah, time and habitat will tell... I've had some that colored in, but numerous times they almost entirely faded.. prolly due to water conditions, stress, and food... But i'm glad yours is coloring in....
@Rash, yeah, I've been thinking about getting those c-quest ones.. especially since the black is colored in so well.. the one great thing about theirs is that they've crossed breed 'high' grade onyxs over and over again to a point where the coloring has become dominate.. The babies color in sooo much faster and blacker..
for these guys.. once you go black... :-D
They just moved facility to Wisconsin from Puerto Rico.. hopefully more LFS are willing to order from them now that they are on the mainland because in the past, their clown prices were ridiculous due to shipping!!..
@Rash, yeah, I've been thinking about getting those c-quest ones.. especially since the black is colored in so well.. the one great thing about theirs is that they've crossed breed 'high' grade onyxs over and over again to a point where the coloring has become dominate.. The babies color in sooo much faster and blacker..
for these guys.. once you go black... :-D
They just moved facility to Wisconsin from Puerto Rico.. hopefully more LFS are willing to order from them now that they are on the mainland because in the past, their clown prices were ridiculous due to shipping!!..
Gumbii's right...they aren't, onyx are strictly perculas while that pair of yours is probably black and white ocellaris.
But on the rarest of rare occasions, a similar morph of that called San Jay's Black Photons Clownfish can be mistaken for either of those two because.. well, its a hybrid female Onyx and male black and white..
Unfortunately Dr San Jay only release 51 of those clowns because the pair unfortunately die during the short time in his care... so the story goes..
I'm just gonna say it.... everytime I go to Thong's and see Black and Whites.. its always listed as Onyx.. kinda bugs me...
I mean, if you were an Angel Fish lover.. and a certain store keeps labeling Queen Juvenile Angels as Blue Juvenile Angels (cause they look identical).. It would bother ya a bit for being mislead.. right?..
So if you got an onyx from there.. its probably just a black and white...
But on the rarest of rare occasions, a similar morph of that called San Jay's Black Photons Clownfish can be mistaken for either of those two because.. well, its a hybrid female Onyx and male black and white..
Unfortunately Dr San Jay only release 51 of those clowns because the pair unfortunately die during the short time in his care... so the story goes..
I'm just gonna say it.... everytime I go to Thong's and see Black and Whites.. its always listed as Onyx.. kinda bugs me...
I mean, if you were an Angel Fish lover.. and a certain store keeps labeling Queen Juvenile Angels as Blue Juvenile Angels (cause they look identical).. It would bother ya a bit for being mislead.. right?..
So if you got an onyx from there.. its probably just a black and white...
