Tropic Marin All For Reef
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TM actually recommends using calcium levels to adjust your dose, due to the fact that formate is bio available but not always present on test kits. I agree, alk is technically more important, but as others have said, as long as your alk is between 7-9 dkh you can safely use calcium to guide dosing
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Trip on this, All For Reef cost cheaper than kalkwasser. Do the math, I use to dose 1350 ml of Kalk every 24 hours, compared to 15-17 ml of All for Reef every 24 hours. Cost of kalk was $20 for 2 lbs and all for reef cost $22 for 2 lbs, On top of that you save on dosing vitamin and trace elements, think about it. WOW!
My calculations might be off a bit but either way still best bang for your buck!
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My calculations might be off a bit but either way still best bang for your buck!
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I wish A4R was not so expensive. The powder comes in 800grams = 1.764 pounds and is $47.17 on Amazon, almost the same as a 50 pound bag of kalk. That comes to $26.74 a pound. I dose about 3.4 times as much kalk as you were a day and my use in increasing. So I would need at least 51.6-58 ml of A4R based on your numbers.
800 grams of A4R powder makes 5 liters or 5000ml. That makes it $0.0094 per ml. Assuming 52ml A4R a day makes it $0.49 a day or $14.64 a month. Compared to less than a doller a month. Not as bad as I thought it would be. Now if A4R just sold 5 pounds for less than $100 it would be justifiable on my tank.
800 grams of A4R powder makes 5 liters or 5000ml. That makes it $0.0094 per ml. Assuming 52ml A4R a day makes it $0.49 a day or $14.64 a month. Compared to less than a doller a month. Not as bad as I thought it would be. Now if A4R just sold 5 pounds for less than $100 it would be justifiable on my tank.
I meant also taking the cost of trace elements ( for instance I use to use Red Sea A, B, C, and D. At almost $20 each)
And at Bulk Reef Supply I can get 3.5 lbs of all for reef for $75 that makes more than 2.6 gallons =10 liters, I use 1 liter in 2 months at 17 ml every 24 hrs, that gives me 20 months of solution (1 year and 8 months) that’s not as expensive as people think when you ad over $80x3= $240 on Red Sea a,b,c,& d that lasts me 18 months
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And at Bulk Reef Supply I can get 3.5 lbs of all for reef for $75 that makes more than 2.6 gallons =10 liters, I use 1 liter in 2 months at 17 ml every 24 hrs, that gives me 20 months of solution (1 year and 8 months) that’s not as expensive as people think when you ad over $80x3= $240 on Red Sea a,b,c,& d that lasts me 18 months
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I've been using AFR on two large-ish systems for the past year or so.
On a Red Sea Reefer 750 that has a few large monti caps, I transitioned from BRS two-part to AFR as the sole means of calcium and alkalinity replenishment, which works for this system given its modest demands. It would be much less cost effective with an SPS-rich tank of this size.
On a Cade Peninsula 1800 mixed reef with a substantial amount of SPS, I dose about 75 mL's a day of AFR in conjunction with a calcium reactor and 2 gallons of kalkwasser daily. I'm principally using it for trace element replenishment (in lieu of Red Sea A,B,C and D which I used previously), and all of my corals have reacted positively since I started dosing. Again, I don't think this would be a cost effective means of primary replenishment for a tank of this size, but I'm nonetheless a strong believer in the product.
On a Red Sea Reefer 750 that has a few large monti caps, I transitioned from BRS two-part to AFR as the sole means of calcium and alkalinity replenishment, which works for this system given its modest demands. It would be much less cost effective with an SPS-rich tank of this size.
On a Cade Peninsula 1800 mixed reef with a substantial amount of SPS, I dose about 75 mL's a day of AFR in conjunction with a calcium reactor and 2 gallons of kalkwasser daily. I'm principally using it for trace element replenishment (in lieu of Red Sea A,B,C and D which I used previously), and all of my corals have reacted positively since I started dosing. Again, I don't think this would be a cost effective means of primary replenishment for a tank of this size, but I'm nonetheless a strong believer in the product.
I have a question... Has anyone tried this and compared to the reef moonshiner method? I used to do the moonshiner method for my previous system. Then I saw A4R come to light and the thought of a single product vs dosing over a dozen was very attractive. I'm sure some elements will be more consumed than others depending on the coral needs and bioload...
I'm planning on starting my new system on A4R, then supplement the needed elements separately. Myself, I kinda liked the mad scientist approach , it was just time consuming and my Mrs. didn't like me turning her kitchen into a lab.
I'm planning on starting my new system on A4R, then supplement the needed elements separately. Myself, I kinda liked the mad scientist approach , it was just time consuming and my Mrs. didn't like me turning her kitchen into a lab.
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