30" cube plumbing setup critique

[Jetsetter57]

Getting it wet tomorrow. Just wanted to see if things are looking ok or if there are any "real" issues. Not not picky you gotta start over crap just down and dirty will this work or should I turn the sump around and place things any different?

Skimmer is an eshopps 120 that will sit on a media block to get to whatever is the right level for the skimmer once I start the system up. There's a hang on 7" acrylic sock holder I can place differently as well.

Thanks.

 

[Fly5150]

No that's not gonna work. Your drain isn't finished.


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[Jetsetter57]

No that's not gonna work. Your drain isn't finished.


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Hah. I didn't want to finish in case I needed to spin the sump around for anything. Plus what's a little splashing gonna hurt.

 

[Fly5150]

Hah. I didn't want to finish in case I needed to spin the sump around for anything. Plus what's a little splashing gonna hurt.

Well don't connect it and see what a little splashing hurts.

 

[gumbii]

when you're filling it up and it's draining out... please, do us a favor and film it... and have a second camera filming your reaction...



kthxbye...

 

[Jetsetter57]

Everyone loves a sucker! And a great fail every now and then is awesome I know.

 

[dontavo27]

[MENTION=8452]Jetsetter57[/MENTION] you should be able to use a couple of 90's for the drain instead of 45's,
You'll have a more clean direct look to the drain. I also recommend you get a beveling tool for pvc, and bevel all the edges on each piece of pvc you cut, so that the piece of pvc you cut and pvc fitting you use glue perfectly together. Oh and don't forget the clear pvc glue and at least 24hrs of cure time

 

[Jetsetter57]

Won't 90's restrict the flow too much? I've always been told to use flex when you can and 45's not 90's for rigid plumbing.

 

[dontavo27]

It shouldn't be a problem. Although that might depend on what size drain you have. If it's 1.5"- 1" you should be fine. I doubt you're running 3/4" drain lol. It also depends on your return pump and how much water its pumping through the over flow, you'll get that nasty gurgling sounds of its to much flow.
1.5" drain is always best. Unfortunately for me the tank I bought from my lfs came with a 1" which Isn't really to my liking, but I don't have a problem with cuz I'm running a dc pump and I'm able to adjust flow rate.

 

[thegrun]

I would use a gate valve instead of a ball valve on your return, ball valves are difficult to fine tune the flow with. I would also add a secondary emergency drain, drill the new hole in the bottom of the overflow box or if there is not room in the back side of the overflow.

 

[lowbudget]

i khave a kinked neck after looking at your pictures use black hoses for your return

 

[theMerchant]

I would put plastic hose clamps on return. No clamps = wet floors

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[newtothis]

whether you use 45's or 90's on the drain it doesn't matter. its a drain line. as for the glue curing, it does not take 24 hr to cure. I've plumbed may tanks with as little as 1-2 hr and it's good to go.
if you are going to use vinyl tubing, i would suggest use black tubing like post whore [MENTION=654]lowbudget[/MENTION] mentioned.

 

[Jetsetter57]

Ok I have black hose laying around thanks. Gets wet this week!

 

[Jetsetter57]

whether you use 45's or 90's on the drain it doesn't matter. its a drain line. as for the glue curing, it does not take 24 hr to cure. I've plumbed may tanks with as little as 1-2 hr and it's good to go.
if you are going to use vinyl tubing, i would suggest use black tubing like post whore [MENTION=654]lowbudget[/MENTION] mentioned.

Also saw these in an article. My 3/4" drain line might suffer but I'm using a sicce 4.0(985gph) but after 5' that goes down to 500gph which is about the limit for a 3/4" drain line.

 

[newtothis]

Sicce pump have a dial in the front were you adjust the flow or you can use the ball valve that you have. If i were you, i would optimized your drain by converting pre drilled as a herbie. then run a up and over return. Thats what is what i would do.

 

[Letsgotothezoo]

Nice setup Michael

 

[BeanMachine]

Personally, I would flip the sump around. Shorten the return line and elongate the drain line. Most likely it would reduce the head on the pump and result in a bit more flow from the pump.

 

[Jetsetter57]

Sicce pump have a dial in the front were you adjust the flow or you can use the ball valve that you have. If i were you, i would optimized your drain by converting pre drilled as a herbie. then run a up and over return. Thats what is what i would do.

I like that. I'm not too happy about changing the drain around but it seems like an easy solution to go herbie style. Do dursos fail really? With proper maintenance and a cap over the overflow I don't know how it could. Would the herbie style somehow increase drain rate even though it's still 3/4" or are you saying optimize as in have a backup in case somehow a drain fails?

 

[newtothis]

I like that. I'm not too happy about changing the drain around but it seems like an easy solution to go herbie style. Do dursos fail really? With proper maintenance and a cap over the overflow I don't know how it could. Would the herbie style somehow increase drain rate even though it's still 3/4" or are you saying optimize as in have a backup in case somehow a drain fails?

Herbie would be a lot quieter. Plus, now you would have an additional drain to work with. if your sump can support the excess water in the overflow, i wouldn't even use a stand pipe on the main drain. This option would help with keeping your overflow from detritus build up.