30x12x12 Inch Lighting?

[Kobin]

Hi all! Was planning to get a new frag tank up and running and was going to go with a custom 30x12x12 inch tank from advanced acrylics. I'm currently running 2 kessil 360WEs over my 45g tank (overkill but helps with keeping my light intensive nems). I plan on growing primarily mushrooms and softies in this tank. Since it is an AIO system, the actual usable area for coral in this tank is 29x8.75 in.

I was thinking of using either 2 kessil 160s or 2x 24 inch oprhek or3s (not sure which color combo). Not sure if 24 inches would cover a 30 in tank. Anyone have any experience with orpheks? For a long and narrow tank I believe strip lighting would be better suited for it. Was also considering bumping up the tank to a 36x12x12 to just do the 36 in orphek.

Anyone have experience with advanced acrylics as well? First time trying to order something from them.

 

[joseserrano]

Go with the orphek. Just mount higher.

 

[drexel]

I would go with Quanta Pro over Orphek, especially at the same price. I would also do the 36" tank, easier to light. If you haven't checked out Quanta Pro lights yet, check them out here.

 

[Kobin]

I would go with Quanta Pro over Orphek, especially at the same price. I would also do the 36" tank, easier to light. If you haven't checked out Quanta Pro lights yet, check them out here.

I've heard the quanta was very similar to the orphek. I'll check them out and consider them as an option!

 

[drexel]

I've heard the quanta was very similar to the orphek. I'll check them out and consider them as an option!

They are better than Orpheks. I was running OR2's and XHO's over my temp tank and I replaced all of them with just 2 Quanta Pro meso blue bars and they out performed them in every way. If you're going to spend the money on Orpheks, then buy Quanta's. Luca will help you put together a solid mix of bars based on your needs. Telegraham has done a few live streams and talked about them and he's had Luca on several times. The Quanta bars pack more diodes per bar, have better spectrum blending and better par. I could easily run meso blues and tropic sun bars alone and probably be happy with the results.

 

[Kobin]

They are better than Orpheks. I was running OR2's and XHO's over my temp tank and I replaced all of them with just 2 Quanta Pro meso blue bars and they out performed them in every way. If you're going to spend the money on Orpheks, then buy Quanta's. Luca will help you put together a solid mix of bars based on your needs. Telegraham has done a few live streams and talked about them and he's had Luca on several times. The Quanta bars pack more diodes per bar, have better spectrum blending and better par. I could easily run meso blues and tropic sun bars alone and probably be happy with the results.

Yeah I sent him an email and he recommended doing 1 meso blue for my tank if I were doing just softies. Since the tank is narrow, 1 is enough. Was considering the meso blue pro too since I was going to most likely have nems in the tank and wasn't sure if the regular meso would suffice light wise

 

[drexel]

They're great lights and you won't be disappointed with them. Luca has great customer service too.

 

[drexel]

Just a quick pic of two 3’ meso blue bars covering a 125g. The tank is filled half way, as it’s only keeping things going while I reboot my display.

Here they are temp mounted over my display.

And with the halides.


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[wishntoboutside]

I may consider the maxspect jump lights x 2. I would also do a little research on the Quanta light. I recently saw a u tube video on comparing those and the ali express versions and quanta information did not seem 100 % correct.

 

[drexel]

I may consider the maxspect jump lights x 2. I would also do a little research on the Quanta light. I recently saw a u tube video on comparing those and the ali express versions and quanta information did not seem 100 % correct.

Curious, what was off? Link to the video?

 

[Smite]

I haven't sat through the whole thing but here ya go. Reef Publik is Jay Moran, who was calling him out on FB groups.

I watched some of it. The meso, I believe, doesn't line up exactly with ATI blue plus t5 like was claimed. He also has a gripe with the mounting not being SS, it's magnetic. That's no different than orpheks though

 

[drexel]

This guy has an axe to grind with Quanta bars, he's actually walked back a few comments on a different thread. Having owned the Orpheks and XHO's, I'd still pick Quantas over any other bar out there. Real world application is all that matters to me. I'll have to watch the whole video later, but something tells me, there's nothing here to change my mind.

 

[Smite]

I just watched the whole thing. He's got some valid points in there for pros and cons for quanta vs herifi.

I have the quanta OG pop and I like them a lot. I'm running 2 bars on my 38" front to back tank, one on either side of my 10x54w ATI powermodule. They cover the tank completely for supplemental blue pop. So the spread is there for sure. I haven't done any par measurements but on a 12x12" tank I would be worried about possibly too much PAR for softies. I'm sure Luca can answer that better for you though.

 

[Smite]

This guy has an axe to grind with Quanta bars, he's actually walked back a few comments on a different thread. Having owned the Orpheks and XHO's, I'd still pick Quantas over any other bar out there. Real world application is all that matters to me. I'll have to watch the whole video later, but something tells me, there's nothing here to change my mind.

It won't change your mind, his gripe isn't with the Quanta's being a bad bar it seems to be more about what he feels are false claims and data on Quantas part. I think they both had to back down from some of the claims they were making but yeah he does seem to have a personal issue with both Luca and user telegram for sure.

 

[Kobin]

I just watched the whole thing. He's got some valid points in there for pros and cons for quanta vs herifi.

I have the quanta OG pop and I like them a lot. I'm running 2 bars on my 38" front to back tank, one on either side of my 10x54w ATI powermodule. They cover the tank completely for supplemental blue pop. So the spread is there for sure. I haven't done any par measurements but on a 12x12" tank I would be worried about possibly too much PAR for softies. I'm sure Luca can answer that better for you though.

Luca said I should go with one regular meso blue 24 inch bar for a 30 inch tank if I'm doing only softies and hang roughly 4 inches above the water. He said that this spectrum would be better suited and cheaper for a softie only tank as they don't need as much par; the pro meso blue would be too much light for what I have in the tank.

 

[Smite]

Luca said I should go with one regular meso blue 24 inch bar for a 30 inch tank if I'm doing only softies and hang roughly 4 inches above the water. He said that this spectrum would be better suited and cheaper for a softie only tank as they don't need as much par; the pro meso blue would be too much light for what I have in the tank.

That sounds about right. I think you'll be very happy with the light

 

[drexel]

Luca said I should go with one regular meso blue 24 inch bar for a 30 inch tank if I'm doing only softies and hang roughly 4 inches above the water. He said that this spectrum would be better suited and cheaper for a softie only tank as they don't need as much par; the pro meso blue would be too much light for what I have in the tank.

I believe the regular version of those can be daisy-chained and they're also water proof.

 

[drexel]

I just watched the whole video, I kinda feel like that was semi-torture. I'm not sure how many times a person can say "um" before I tune out? Um, once. Also, his data is kinda funky and how he presents it. The UVA of the blue+ is so little, that it probably doesn't make it past the water surface, so that wouldn't matter at all. The amount of violets in the Quantas is awesome and probably overlooked by many. Look at the new gen6 radion, they added a lot more violets and for good reason. The missing cyan is the only thing, which is what gives the blue+ the "whiter" appearance. It's funny how he tries to use Telegraham's post/live stream to prove his point, but Luca and Jim are friends. Yeah, to me, this guy really has an axe to grind and is trying make something out of nothing. The whole "reef tax" is funny.
I also think this guy believes in Sasquatch, but I'm only guessing here.
Rest assured, you'll like the Quanta bars.

 

[Smite]

Right and there wasn't much comparison on spectrum of the Herifi vs Quanta. Why order a custom of your own type and not mimic what quanta is doing at the lower diode count (or standard herifi) to show spectral differences. It seems like it was really Meso Vs Blue+ for the first portion. Herifi does offer quite a few different spectrums which had me interested. Shipping was kind of a surprise to me for 6 bars.
The meso may not replicate b+ perfectly but how does the equivalent orphek or herifi bar add up? Got a little nit picky there on peaks ect. Maybe these two called out a light he was sponsored by or supporting in the past, I'm not sure.
He talked about efficiency of diode count vs PAR and that was an interesting point for me, considering mimicking a t5 panel out of bars, but that's ignoring spectrum. I do wonder if i could get a better blend with more lower PAR bars, just different spectrums per bar. Quanta I'm sure was going for more diodes to achieve a more blended spectrum, not so much to get more PAR out of the bar.

 

[drexel]

Right and there wasn't much comparison on spectrum of the Herifi vs Quanta. Why order a custom of your own type and not mimic what quanta is doing at the lower diode count (or standard herifi) to show spectral differences. It seems like it was really Meso Vs Blue+ for the first portion. Herifi does offer quite a few different spectrums which had me interested. Shipping was kind of a surprise to me for 6 bars.
The meso may not replicate b+ perfectly but how does the equivalent orphek or herifi bar add up? Got a little nit picky there on peaks ect. Maybe these two called out a light he was sponsored by or supporting in the past, I'm not sure.
He talked about efficiency of diode count vs PAR and that was an interesting point for me, considering mimicking a t5 panel out of bars, but that's ignoring spectrum. I do wonder if i could get a better blend with more lower PAR bars, just different spectrums per bar. Quanta I'm sure was going for more diodes to achieve a more blended spectrum, not so much to get more PAR out of the bar.

The other thing to consider is the overlap of bars when using multiples. This is where you’ll gain par, but I would rather have better spectrum blending than higher par with narrower optics like the Orpheks have. Once I get all three bars over my tank filled with water, I’ll take some measurements.


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