Bad Clam Luck

[DaveKGold]

Now I noticed that one of my green chromis is missing. We used to have 5, I figured we lost a couple to cycling with three left....I'm getting very suspicious.

Do the flatworms get into the sand bed or just the rock work?

 

[Hugo’s_reef]

Just curious from what vendor did you purchase it from ?? i brought home a clam as well from the coral farmers market this Saturday as well . The vendor (i don't recall their name they were in the far left corner from the main entrance ) told me they didn't need any acclimation, so i didn't acclimate it and just pretty much dropped it in . i never kept clams before but it looks great just as it looked at the CFM .

 

[Reef626]

I was in a hurry and just used 10 minutes to acclimate a 2 inch crocea two days ago. It is doing fine.

 

[BeanMachine]

You should always acclimate everything... if you don't well you are taking the risk.

As far as a predatory flatworm, that is just a guess although it could be a host of other reasons. Maybe the clam was diseased, did you put it on the sand or a rock? , etc etc. we are dealing with living creatures.

 

[BeanMachine]

Imagine how cold the water was, did you float before acclimating... I could go all day.

Lets not name names please. No drama on SCR today thanks.

 

[DaveKGold]

did you put it on the sand or a rock?

It was put on the sand.

Imagine how cold the water was, did you float before acclimating

It was floated for about 30 minutes, with one cup of water added twice during that time. My tank is at 77 F.

 

[BeanMachine]

It was put on the sand.




It was floated for about 30 minutes, with one cup of water added twice during that time. My tank is at 77 F.

Croceas are rock dwellers, not saying this is the reason it died so quickly but..

Putting tank water in twice and dropping it in isn't really the proper way. Proper would be to drip with a little piece of line and a little valve...

 

[lowbudget]

i dipped the clam i got from kyle. not long thought but it was a pretty strong dip. i dont acclimate my corals anymore seems to stress them out more.

 

[DaveKGold]

Croceas are rock dwellers, not saying this is the reason it died so quickly but..

Seller said you could go either way. I was going to move it later.

Putting tank water in twice and dropping it in isn't really the proper way. Proper would be to drip with a little piece of line and a little valve...

I know the method is not ideal but aside from this clam death - which may not have been caused by acclimitization anyway - it's worked fine to date. It actually looked fine after I put it in the tank, did not appear stressed. It was closed up next morning (Sunday) and was open today, with remnants being eaten by hermits and shrimps.

 

[Emac909]

What kind of fish do u have? Please no butterflies right.

 

[DaveKGold]

What kind of fish do u have? Please no butterflies right.

Six line wrasse, Carpenter flasher wrasse, two clowns, clown tang, couple of green chromis, and a tiger shrimp goby. There is also a fire shrimp, cleaner shrimp, and pistol shrimp.

Also a bicolor blenny.

 

[DaveKGold]

ooopsss

 

[DaveKGold]

Set a trap last night....nothing noticed. Used a portion of dead clam as bait. Will try again tonight with a piece of shrimp.

Saw elsewhere on the web about putting it in a small container with some holes in it. Will try that again before I try with a rock.

 

[DaveKGold]

I am certain now there is a predator in my tank. I set up a bristle worm trap with a piece of raw shrimp in it last night, and now the shrimp is gone. So I didn't catch anything. It has to be either a flatworm or large bristleworm.

I'm going to continue to try my trapping efforts until this weekend, and if that does not work I will tear down my tank and dip everything in Bayer Advanced (read the threads elsewhere here about that).

Does anyone know for certain that will work, is it ok to dip live rock, and if I take everything out and dip it and put it back will that potentially crash the cycle? Aside from inverebrates and fish is there anything unsafe to dip?

Thanks for any input.

 

[ColorfulReef]

I am certain now there is a predator in my tank. I set up a bristle worm trap with a piece of raw shrimp in it last night, and now the shrimp is gone. So I didn't catch anything. It has to be either a flatworm or large bristleworm.

I'm going to continue to try my trapping efforts until this weekend, and if that does not work I will tear down my tank and dip everything in Bayer Advanced (read the threads elsewhere here about that).

Does anyone know for certain that will work, is it ok to dip live rock, and if I take everything out and dip it and put it back will that potentially crash the cycle? Aside from inverebrates and fish is there anything unsafe to dip?

Thanks for any input.

The trap doesn't work. I tried that before. What I did with the trap was put it there and check obit in a few hours to see where the worm is then only take out that rock to dipp hopefully this will work for you. Thu should prevent from tearing down the whole tank.

 

[Reefomeez]

Your CUC is as likely as a predator for having eaten the shrimp.

I haven't used Bayer but I think it's only for corals and not rock, sand etc. In essence it will kill all the little bugs and other beneficial organisms on the rock. And yes, this will cause a cycle because of the decay of all the dead stuff. And potentially crash your tank because of the ammonia spike.

Any way you can setup the trap and a camera to record it overnight? It could very well be your hermits and snails that ate the shrimp...

 

[DaveKGold]

Your CUC is as likely as a predator for having eaten the shrimp.

CUC?

It could very well be your hermits and snails that ate the shrimp...

No way, they can't fit in the trap.

This is the trap I'm using:

http://www.marinedepot.com/Coralife...ter_Aquariums-Coralife-ES09550-FIMIBN-vi.html

I guess the trick is to check on it and pull it out as the worms can escape.

 

[DaveKGold]

Any critters that eat larger bristle worms? I've heard arrow crabs? Six lines won't eat the larger ones.

 

[Reefomeez]

CUC?




No way, they can't fit in the trap.

This is the trap I'm using:

http://www.marinedepot.com/Coralife_Trap%60Em_Bristle_Worm_Trap_Fish_Hatcheries_Breeding_Supplies_for_Saltwater_Aquariums-Coralife-ES09550-FIMIBN-vi.html

I guess the trick is to check on it and pull it out as the worms can escape.

CUC = Clean Up Crew

I see...yeah that's probably too small for any of your snails/crabs. Maybe you do have a nudi. Just didn't want you to go the nuclear option (bayer dipping your live rock) unless it was the last one. Best of luck...keep us posted.

 

[DaveKGold]

Just didn't want you to go the nuclear option (bayer dipping your live rock) unless it was the last one

Yeah....I'm not really fond of that option either.

I suspect that this is a problem I've had for a long time and it was in my Red Sea Max and got transfered with rock over to the new (used) 75 g tank. Well at least the water chemistry is good!