Bio media and phosphate

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I was a little concerned about my high phosphate level. I'm picking up some hair algae on my sand bed. I have been spot feeding my corals more so I'm sure that's what's bringing it up. I added some bio media about a week ago with some bacteria booster and let it run. When I added the bio media i tested my phosphate (.10) and a checked it today(.05). Pretty significant drop I think




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I'm not sure if this drop is do to the bio media I thought it would take a lot longer to build up the bacteria. I'll check it again next week and see what happens


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Keep in mind the the 0.04 +-variance that your checker can be. I like to do 3 back to back readings and then average out


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Keep in mind the the 0.04 +-variance that your checker can be. I like to do 3 back to back readings and then average out


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Yeah I always do two and average them. My first two before the bio media was .11 and .10. My last test both came in at .05
 

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I find what your doing fascinating. I also have added siporax about two months ago and my nitrates dropped from between 5-10 ppm (salifert tests) to just this week to .75- 1 ppm (Red Sea pro test). My phosphates have only come down with GFO though.

So is your thinking that as the nitrates drop so will the phosphates. I just haven't seen that take place.

I understand when carbon dosing, the increased bacterial population is consuming both nitrates and phosphates something to the tune of the redfield ratio but is that different from siporax supporting denitrifying bacteria and nitrifying bacteria. Do the siporax supported bacteria also consume phosphate approximately to the redfield ratio as well or just effect nitrates primarily?

Second point, siporax in a media reactor is a great idea and should allow for low flow which apparently lets the bacteria kick into high gear, I believe due to anaerobic conditions being improved. I have heard it suggested to avoid placement of siporax in the overflow box because of the likelihood of detritus accumulating and filling all the pore spaces.
 

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I find what your doing fascinating. I also have added siporax about two months ago and my nitrates dropped from between 5-10 ppm (salifert tests) to just this week to .75- 1 ppm (Red Sea pro test). My phosphates have only come down with GFO though.

So is your thinking that as the nitrates drop so will the phosphates. I just haven't seen that take place.

I understand when carbon dosing, the increased bacterial population is consuming both nitrates and phosphates something to the tune of the redfield ratio but is that different from siporax supporting denitrifying bacteria and nitrifying bacteria. Do the siporax supported bacteria also consume phosphate approximately to the redfield ratio as well or just effect nitrates primarily?

Second point, siporax in a media reactor is a great idea and should allow for low flow which apparently lets the bacteria kick into high gear, I believe due to anaerobic conditions being improved. I have heard it suggested to avoid placement of siporax in the overflow box because of the likelihood of detritus accumulating and filling all the pore spaces.
First point, I'm not sure about the bacteria dropping the phosphate??? I know it's more of a denitrification media I wasn't sure if it would have any effect on phosphate. But I haven't changed anything on my tank other than the siporax. I will keep testing and see what happens in the future.

Second point, yes I agree the overflow isn't the best place to keep bio media but I had some extra left over so I put them in there. My overflow is very small so it's easy to clean out any build up detritus that gets caught. I was reading a write up from England that said water flow wasn't as big of a factor as people make it. They said the size of the pores in the media is what slows the water down as it passes through.

This is all pretty new to me so I'm just trying different things and testing to see what happens.
 
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I've added the pond matrix didn't seed it with nothing 2-3 months later I rid of some slime algea on my sand bed that I had for a long time . I wasn't expecting it to work but it did cause I haven't done anything else different just added more coral & fish
 

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