critique my sump plans

[bad santa]

I finally want to get a custom sump made to facilitate my maintence. Can you guys look over my drawing and see if you can see anything i need to change or forgot to incorporate?

 

[SchnitzelReef]

How does the water get from the skimmer section back to the return?




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[bad santa]

somehow...lol
that i couldnt figure out, maybe another set of baffles into the return area. the fuge will be fed by the return pump.

 

[BeanMachine]

Yep something seems missing. I would put your drain where you skimmer is and your skimmer where your drain is. So drain, to socks (if you have or want them), then skimmer, then fuge, then return.

 

[SchnitzelReef]

Ya gunna have to add baffles to the return section. Make sure u tell john to add like 4 baffles. U don't want bubbles getting into ur return area. Same goes with fuge section. Some guys think u can just have the fuge or skimmer section overflow into the rerun section. But there's no guarantee it won't create some bubbles


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[BeanMachine]

Drill the return section install a valve like Andy did for water changes. Hook a hose up, turn on the pump, fill your container and vice versa to fill new saltwater.

 

[BeanMachine]

No lets get this figured out with dimensions before he gets a hold of it... not the best plan of attack if you want it done right and the way you want it.

 

[bad santa]

Bean, i have my sump somewhat laid out like you mentioned and i can only service my tank on 2 sides. Right now i have to tilt my skimme cup alittle to get it between the 3 return lines. Thats the reason i want to have my skimmer in front of the return lines so to speak.

Andy who? Does he have pics of his sump showing the water change idea? That sounds like a great idea but i cant picture it in my head right now.

 

[bad santa]

Nick, as far as baffles go, i have always used the under-over-under with 1" spacing for baffles and i have never had issues with bubbles.

 

[SchnitzelReef]

Ya u should be good with that setup


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[BeanMachine]

Bean, i have my sump somewhat laid out like you mentioned and i can only service my tank on 2 sides. Right now i have to tilt my skimme cup alittle to get it between the 3 return lines. Thats the reason i want to have my skimmer in front of the return lines so to speak.

Andy who? Does he have pics of his sump showing the water change idea? That sounds like a great idea but i cant picture it in my head right now.

mark.a.smith405 let me see if I can find his build. It was simple yet effective for water changes from the looks of it.

 

[Tangwich]

You bring up a good point Ed..I wonder if the under-over-under baffle method is better than the over-under-over method or vice-versa? Asking because my sump layout is a bit different than yours with the last baffles being over-under-over...hmmm

 

[SchnitzelReef]

I don't think it matters honestly. I wonder what mine are. I think john does

Over under over


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[Tangwich]

yeah nick, so far everything i have researched and images of his work show o-u-o...as long as no bubbles enter my dt, i'm good with either one.

 

[bad santa]

You bring up a good point Ed..I wonder if the under-over-under baffle method is better than the over-under-over method or vice-versa? Asking because my sump layout is a bit different than yours with the last baffles being over-under-over...hmmm

I read this on meleves reef a few years ago and i have used that design in every sump i have made.

 

[bad santa]

I don't think it matters honestly. I wonder what mine are. I think john does

Over under over


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i have one of johns all in ones and he uses the over-under-over which creates alittle of noise and a few small bubbles.

 

[Tangwich]

are you building this next one or having john build it?

 

[Six2seven]

I like under, over, under because when it's over under, over, there's a small section that catches debris that is hard to clean.









90g SPS tank/75g display refugium. 180g FOWLR

 

[mark.a.smith405]

My drain is at the bottom of my tank. But here is a pic of my sump!

Left chamber is split. Back drains into filter socks, and then goes to skimmer chamber. Than middle fuge / fish jail section tht has a third drain adding water. Last is rubble / skeleton filters and return pump. Mine was made by John and it over under over. There are bubbles formed if the return section does not have enough water in it.

 

[bad santa]

are you building this next one or having john build it?

im going to have john build it for me. This is pretty much the layout that i want i just need to find any design errors in my set up .
One thing that i just thought of was that in the right side of my skimmer/drain section area i will have to have the wall/partition height enough so it doesnt drain into the fuge area. Maybe have the left side of the skimmer/drain area about 2" lower. thoughts?