Damian's Quarantine Experience

[Confuse]

So as some of you may know, my fish contracted Velvet. One after another, they dropped dead overnight. I was able to catch the remaining fish and put them in quarantine. I'd like this to be an informative post for others considering QT'ing. I'll post information I found on the web and whatever I found useful in my journey.

Equipment:
16g Innovative Marine Nuvo
75w Heater
Aqualifter (air stone)

This was a running display. I did about a 10g water change with fresh salt water. There is no live rock or filtration. I will probably add a sponge to seed bacteria. Ammonia will be controlled through water changes.

I'm planning on running Copper for four weeks and then having an observation period of two weeks thereafter.

Prior to adding the fish to the display, the fish were under observation and showed no signs of disease. But about a week and a half later, my naso tang died overnight. About 6 day later, my powder blue tang died suddenly overnight. Then a few days after that, my starry blenny died without showing any signs of stress. It all happened very suddenly.

I'm fairly new to QT'ing, but I hope to fill you guys in into my experience with it.

 

[pgr11]

Keep us posted. Hope it all goes well for you

 

[solitude127]

Good luck with the QT.

 

[Jlooney_4]

Maybe something you might want to add to the tank is a ammonia badge seachem makes them.

 

[LAreefguy]

Something is wrong somewhere. Maybe the tank you are moving these fish 2 from qt needs a long period of time with no fish in it.

 

[Confuse]

So this is day one of treating with copper. This morning my picasso died. He looked the worst of them all. But he's also had this disease the longest. Now I have two clowns in quarantine. My big clown is eating, but the smaller one isn't. They're still breathing sort of rapidly.

I'm starting to debate whether is this brooklynella or velvet. Does brooklynella typically hit other non-clown species? I noticed the clown that passed away had a "white frosty" kind of look to it. Isn't velvet supposed to be powdery brown? That same fish had a powdery brown look when he started getting sick. So I'm a little confused. I'm treating with copper because I don't know what it is.

 

[Spinner]

It may be that the new skimmer you just bought is bring you some bad luck.......I should come by when it comes in and remove it from your home no need to thank me.....what are friends for

You will be way ahead using a QT for both fish and corals once you get it down you will see not doing it should be a crime:triniti:

 

[Bouncingsoul393]

Throwing my two cents in here. Copper is less effective (you may even say not effective) than formalin/formaldehyde based products in treating velvet and brook specifically. In order for copper to hit those two it needs to be run in a very high dosage. My suggestion here would be to do a massive 75% water change and switch to Quick Cure or Para Guard. Based on what you've said, the chances of the fish making it here are slim to none in there current state/treatment. Good luck.

 

[pgr11]

If the clowns brought it in I'd lean towards brook. Yes it can and does spread to other fish.

 

[pgr11]

BTW copper won't work on brook velvet I'm not sure

 

[Confuse]

If the clowns brought it in I'd lean towards brook. Yes it can and does spread to other fish.

The thing is that this all started after I added the tangs. I've had the clowns for years.

 

[Adrock]

how many fish did u add @ Once? ( I noticed you said tang's)

 

[Confuse]

how many fish did u add @ Once? ( I noticed you said tang's)

The only two additions from the group that I've had for years was a Powder Blue and Naso tang. The naso died first, then the powder blue, followed by the starry blenny and then my picasso.

 

[solitude127]

Be careful of overfeeding the fish that are actually eating in your QT. I bought a pair of potters angels and a blue sided fairy wrasse and the wrasse was eating right away. Because I was trying to get the potters to eat, I would overfeed and the wrasse just kept eating which I believe led to his death.

 

[Confuse]

Yesterday, the fish weren't looking to great so I dosed copper again. I also dosed fishkeeper, which Chad recommended. The previous reading was about .3 so I added some more (need to test again). This morning, I wake up and my clown is covered with what apparently looks like Ich. So I think that by the time I get back from work he'll be gone. Well, when I got back, he was completely fine. I don't know what that was about. The smaller clown regained a bit of his color back. My big clown ate, the other not so much. Tomorrow I'll do a water change and dose copper again. I'm hoping for the best.

 

[newtothis]

The correct n max dose if your using seachem cupremine is .05 and if your not getting ammonia spike I wouldnt do a water change. You can use ammino-lock to convert ammonia to a non toxic form. You want to keep it at .05 for atleast 2wk on the 3rd wk you want to drop the copper level gradually over the week till your at 0.0. Then you would want to do a quick bath/dip in fresh saltmix and back into another tank if possible beside the copper tank. Then observe for another 2wk of observation in the event of reoccurance. Hope your using seachem copper test kit as well. Ive used the salifert copperto measure cupremine and its inconsistent. The longer the fish expose to max dose the better. I wouldnt mix medication with copper. Hope this help you to better handle your current state. I know have a permanent QT tank running and a serperate hospital tank after my loosing battle with fish lost.

 

[Confuse]

The correct n max dose if your using seachem cupremine is .05 and if your not getting ammonia spike I wouldnt do a water change. You can use ammino-lock to convert ammonia to a non toxic form. You want to keep it at .05 for atleast 2wk on the 3rd wk you want to drop the copper level gradually over the week till your at 0.0. Then you would want to do a quick bath/dip in fresh saltmix and back into another tank if possible beside the copper tank. Then observe for another 2wk of observation in the event of reoccurance. Hope your using seachem copper test kit as well. Ive used the salifert copperto measure cupremine and its inconsistent. The longer the fish expose to max dose the better. I wouldnt mix medication with copper. Hope this help you to better handle your current state. I know have a permanent QT tank running and a serperate hospital tank after my loosing battle with fish lost.

Thanks for the tips! I am using Cupramine and the SeaChem copper test. How do you manage the biological filtration of your permanent QT? I'd like to run something permanently but with some sustainable biological filtration to reduce water changes and keep parameters stable.

 

[Confuse]

Yesterday I did a five gallon water change and dosed copper along with fishkeeper. Over night, my large clown jumped out a few feet across my bedroom and luckily I wasn't in deep sleep and heard him and picked him right up and put him back in the tank. Today he's himself and looking better. Breathing on both clowns has slowed down and they're swimming more. The little one at a bit today which is good news. Will be keeping them medicated for the next few weeks.

 

[pgr11]

Sounds like your on the right track

 

[Reefomeez]

Good luck Damian! And I gotta say a nuvo 16 is a suh-weet QT tank!