EcoTech QuietDrive MP40wQD Sound Test

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So, I had a chance to check out the new QuietDrive MP40 and they are legit. Jets a graph showing the improvements in noise level. This test absolutely confirms EcoTech's 90% reduction in noise levels.
 
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Good info Aaron!!!! I'm still puzzled how you drop 15db with just a driver upgrade using the same loud bearing/motor on the dry side according to the chart?
 

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Given those charts and considering my MP40 is a year old, then I should invest in the driver and not the wet side? Am I right?
Yes, you're going to see a huge improvement with the driver.

If you upgrade the wet side down the road you'll get just a small decrease in noise.
 

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Good info Aaron!!!! I'm still puzzled how you drop 15db with just a driver upgrade using the same loud bearing/motor on the dry side according to the chart?
I know, it seems counterintuitive but it does make sense once your realize what the new driver is doing. The roughness of the old MP40 was mostly due to poor timing of the signals to the motor. The new driver refines these signals resulting in smooth and quiet operation.
 
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I know, it seems counterintuitive but it does make sense once your realize what the new driver is doing. The roughness of the old MP40 was mostly due to poor timing of the signals to the motor. The new driver refines these signals resulting in smooth and quiet operation.
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So how do you actually know if your bearings are bad or not? I'm all in for getting new drivers for my mp60's but what if my bearings on one are bad? How can I tell?
 
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I know, it seems counterintuitive but it does make sense once your realize what the new driver is doing. The roughness of the old MP40 was mostly due to poor timing of the signals to the motor. The new driver refines these signals resulting in smooth and quiet operation.
Now it make sense!! Thanks Aaron

In case someone hasn't already mentioned it, and I'm sure most on SCR can agree, we really appreciate all the time u spend explaining stuff like this to us! I'm on 3 different big reef forums, yet I get the best info from here! I mean this with 100% sincerity, Thanks [MENTION=2872]sonnus[/MENTION] !!!
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So how do you actually know if your bearings are bad or not? I'm all in for getting new drivers for my mp60's but what if my bearings on one are bad? How can I tell?
I'm not sure about these pumps but in general, when bearings go bad they go bad quickly. Also, a lot of heat is generated from bad bearings so I would expect them to get pretty hot.

I think it's worth upgrading the driver regardless. You should see an improvement in noise no matter what. From my experience, the noise should be inaudible with the pump set at 70% and barely noticeable at 100%. If you don't see these imprints then a new wet side might help. Maybe you could borrow a wet side from another reefer just to compare.

In case someone hasn't already mentioned it, and I'm sure most on SCR can agree, we really appreciate all the time u spend explaining stuff like this to us! I'm on 3 different big reef forums, yet I get the best info from here! I mean this with 100% sincerity, Thanks [MENTION=2872]sonnus[/MENTION] !!!

So much BS and crap talking goes on here, it's like a breath of fresh air when you post. Hahaha
Haha, thanks. I think my poor wife deals with most of my BS so I don't have any left over by the time I get to this board.
 

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So I just got home and listened to the louder mp. I don't believe the bearings are bad at all. Pump dry side is not hot at all and its only slightly louder then the other pump. I'll be ordering up the new driver and trying it on that pump. If it works and makes a very noticeable difference I'll buy one for the other. I'm actually excited to give this a try
 
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Thanks for the info. i shop at your store...

but my maff (math) is fuzzy, how is it a 90% reduction? Reduced 22, 22/50 = 43%, or 43% noise reduction, or the new noise level is 58% of the old.

So, I had a chance to check out the new QuietDrive MP40 and they are legit. Jets a graph showing the improvements in noise level. This test absolutely confirms EcoTech's 90% reduction in noise levels.
 

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Thanks for the info. i shop at your store...

but my maff (math) is fuzzy, how is it a 90% reduction? Reduced 22, 22/50 = 43%, or 43% noise reduction, or the new noise level is 58% of the old.
Decibel are logarithmic similar to the earthquake Richter scale.

An increase of just 3 db is 2x as "noisy". (50% quieter)

An increase of just 5 db is 7x as "noisy". (86% quieter)

An increase of just 10 db is 10x as "noisy". (90% quieter)

An increase of just 15 db is 20x as "noisy". (95% quieter)

So this test suggests the pump is 95% quieter!! Of course this test was not performed in an anechoic chamber and there was ambient noise so the test wasn't perfect.
 
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Decibel are logarithmic similar to the earthquake Richter scale.

An increase of just 3 db is 2x as "noisy". (50% quieter)

An increase of just 5 db is 7x as "noisy". (86% quieter)

An increase of just 10 db is 10x as "noisy". (90% quieter)

An increase of just 15 db is 20x as "noisy". (95% quieter)

So this test suggests the pump is 95% quieter!! Of course this test was not performed in an anechoic chamber and there was ambient noise so the test wasn't perfect.
Thanks, Im tired so I forgot the scale. Just to be argumentative, I recall that if logarithmic, then a 10db decrease is 2x as quiet, then 20db less is 3x as quiet, or would that be 20x as quiet? Im still not sure where the 90% comes in, but im sure there is an subjective component.

anyhoo, from a dB standoint the best deal is to get a new, black driver. but do you know the actual prices for each of these upgrades?

Ray
 

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Just to be argumentative, I recall that if logarithmic, then a 10db decrease is 2x as quiet, then 20db less is 3x as quiet, or would that be 20x as quiet? Im still not sure where the 90% comes in, but im sure there is an subjective component. anyhoo, from a dB standoint the best deal is to get a new, black driver. but do you know the actual prices for each of these upgrades?

Ray
Yeah, there are a lot of different ways to interpret the info. My numbers are actually not correct, I used a "power conversion".

I think the most commonly used reference is SPL (sound pressure level). With SPL a 20 dB change would be 10x difference and 15 dB is just above 5x or 80% SPL reduction.

You could also us "perception of loudness". On this scale 20 dB is 4x difference.
 

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