Gyre vs Vortech Mp

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Seems like a lot of people like the Gyre but does anyone like the Mp more or the Tunze just wondering


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I know someone that pulled their gyre out and put a mp60 in because he said the flow was better. But it was for a 247 gallon tank. I'm trying to decide what I want to do with my 360 gallon.


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I put a Gyre 130 in my 4x2x2 and wished I would have got the 150
I have 2 Mp40s in my 120 at my shop and love them not sure if I should get the 150 or more Mp40s?


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No gyre experience, but everyone is torn between them. Either they love them, or they hate them. MP series is my preferance, as of now.
 

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I pulled the mp40 off and just running the Gyre 150 only. It moves a ton of water in my 100g tank at 60% power. On the other hand, I like the footprint of the mp40 more as it does not take too much real estate.
 
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I'm gonna order the 150 and if I don't like it I'm gonna have a 130 and a 150 for sale !! Hahahaa


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That's why I got the 130 cause everyone was using their 150s at 50%
I'm using the 130 at 100% and need more


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That's why I got the 130 cause everyone was using their 150s at 50%
I'm using the 130 at 100% and need more


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I have a 30" long tank and the suggestion was to get the gyre 130 it will be enough. Well should have gotten a 150 for my 50 gal because I am running the 130 at 90% and the noise is annoying. If would have gotten the 150 I would have been able to run it at 40-50% and diff would have been quieter. I don't let sand blowing be the deciding factor that I have too much flow. My corals health decides that.
 
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Vortechs are a great product and so are the gyre pumps. They both have great features. I was running 2 mp60 on my 300 gallon but was never truly happy with the flow. Don't get my wrong, 60s create a crazy amount of flow. The problem I was having was they were so close to my sps they were beating the s*** out of the corals causing them to loose color and when I would turn them down I would loose function of the controllability. But before I was asked to be a beta tester for the gyre pump I told Lindsey (@ReefBullet) that there was no way the gyre would work as great at as a mp60 at pushing water. She swore she would change my mind. And boy did she. Here's a video of 1 xf150 going heads up against 2 mp60s
http://youtu.be/i6HFxTio0Ao
The mp60s are turned to full power and so is the gyre. But even then when I was beta testing I didn't thing the gyre was all that great. I was ok and created good flow but it had a crappy controller. All it could do was pulse and constant. I told everyone that it wasn't an all in one pump where u could only have one of them and be done. I still believe this to this day. If u think that one gyre pump and no other pump in a tank is your answer to all your flow needs then your a fool. The pump is only good at doing one thing and that's make a gyre. I thing they're a great addition along the sides of vortechs or tunzes or even multiple gyre pumps. When the retail version was released they had a way better controller then the betas did. The new controller would allow the pump to spin in forward and reverse. There is no other aquarium pump out there that does this and make the gyre unique. This forward and reverse movement allows the pump to push water in both directions like so
http://youtu.be/nB03EG4erpo
This is alternating gyre mode.
So here's how I have my 300 peninsula setup. I took the 2 mp60's off completely and replaced them with 2 maxspect gyres. There both running on alternating gyre mode. One is attached to the overflow box vertical running a 80% the other is attached to the center brace and running a 40%.
http://youtu.be/E-0OMEtRuA4
The only flaw in the gyre pumps is still I the control or lack of control. Ecotech is light years ahead of maxspect on developing there controllers to do multiple functions.
 
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I have a 30" long tank and the suggestion was to get the gyre 130 it will be enough. Well should have gotten a 150 for my 50 gal because I am running the 130 at 90% and the noise is annoying. If would have gotten the 150 I would have been able to run it at 40-50% and diff would have been quieter. I don't let sand blowing be the deciding factor that I have too much flow. My corals health decides that.
Try changing the bearing out. When I got my first retail gyre it was really and I mean really noisy. It was so bad that the wife demanded I get rid of it. Well I messing with it and thought eff it I'm going to try swapping out the ceramic bearings. What would u know that did the trick for my noisy gyre.
 
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Vortechs are a great product and so are the gyre pumps. They both have great features. I was running 2 mp60 on my 300 gallon but was never truly happy with the flow. Don't get my wrong, 60s create a crazy amount of flow. The problem I was having was they were so close to my sps they were beating the s*** out of the corals causing them to loose color and when I would turn them down I would loose function of the controllability. But before I was asked to be a beta tester for the gyre pump I told Lindsey (@ReefBullet) that there was no way the gyre would work as great at as a mp60 at pushing water. She swore she would change my mind. And boy did she. Here's a video of 1 xf150 going heads up against 2 mp60s
http://youtu.be/i6HFxTio0Ao
The mp60s are turned to full power and so is the gyre. But even then when I was beta testing I didn't thing the gyre was all that great. I was ok and created good flow but it had a crappy controller. All it could do was pulse and constant. I told everyone that it wasn't an all in one pump where u could only have one of them and be done. I still believe this to this day. If u think that one gyre pump and no other pump in a tank is your answer to all your flow needs then your a fool. The pump is only good at doing one thing and that's make a gyre. I thing they're a great addition along the sides of vortechs or tunzes or even multiple gyre pumps. When the retail version was released they had a way better controller then the betas did. The new controller would allow the pump to spin in forward and reverse. There is no other aquarium pump out there that does this and make the gyre unique. This forward and reverse movement allows the pump to push water in both directions like so
http://youtu.be/nB03EG4erpo
This is alternating gyre mode.
So here's how I have my 300 peninsula setup. I took the 2 mp60's off completely and replaced them with 2 maxspect gyres. There both running on alternating gyre mode. One is attached to the overflow box vertical running a 80% the other is attached to the center brace and running a 40%.
http://youtu.be/E-0OMEtRuA4
The only flaw in the gyre pumps is still I the control or lack of control. Ecotech is light years ahead of maxspect on developing there controllers to do multiple functions.
So your saying that the mp 60's actually caused to much flow? If they damaged your sps wouldn't you just want to direct flow away from them directly? Thus causing the same amount of flow just not a heads on blasting force.
 
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So your saying that the mp 60's actually caused to much flow? If they damaged your sps wouldn't you just want to direct flow away from them directly? Thus causing the same amount of flow just not a heads on blasting force.
There was no where I could put the 60's where they wouldn't be blasting sps. Also they were great for about 6' of flow, but I've got an 8' peninsula tank and anything with in 2' of them where just hammered to death at anything over 60%. If I wanted to keep with vortechs I would have to had to go with 4 mp60's. Basically 1 on each corner of the tank. But I got the flow I love out of 2 gyre for the price of one mp60 and my sps look 100 time better. Why would I buy 4 vortechs at $1800 when I got 2 gyre for a forth of that.
In that first video I posted the mp's are on full power. Look how far the flow goes before the gyre comes on. Then compare the flow of the whole tank when the gyre does come on.
Here's another video of one mp60 going heads up against the 150 gyre both are at 100% power
https://youtu.be/X4om4YGjzC8
You tell me with pump covers more real estate in the tank

The orange line is where the flow of the two pumps meet.
 
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Ahh, I get what your saying now. I definitely think the gyre's are for longer tanks, but holy **** 8'! That's a big tank!
And the gyre definitely makes more sense for a set up like yours I completely agree.
 
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Yea. Plus the fact now that I have 3 viewable side with no pumps or magnets to block the view.
Maybe later I'll do a few mp40's but the 60's are just way to aggressive
 

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Emac - now that you have had it a while, would you also suggest two on a 7' tank?

Would be interesting to see what the 170 will be like on a big tank. Although I wonder if it'd be back to two at a lower % than than 1 pump blasting anything near it.
 

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