Hammer and Torch Corals - Can they touch? The Mystery!

Rikyrudd89

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Hey reefing fam! I was watching some reefing vids yesterday and I came across a little rid bit that really got me thinking and sparked the thought to ask everyone’s experience.

Can hammer corals and frogspawns touch torch corals and still live to see another day?

I can’t say I’ve ever been brave enough to try this lol but I wanted to ask what are everyone’s experiences with this subject? What have you all heard about the 2 touching? Who is actually doing it (any pictures would be cool… for science! Lol) and what are everyone’s thoughts on this. Are there corals that can and can’t touch.


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Oh no, I don’t have mine touch. Just wanted to ask around to see what everyone’s experiences are haha

Corals are amazing creatures that often time surprise us everyday so I’m sure there are a lot of interesting stories out there to tell


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So Euphyllia have been split into a different genus and is now recognized as Fimbriaphyllia. The only two species left in Euphyllia are E. cristata and E. glabrescens (torches). Hammers, frogspawn & octospawn are all part of Fimbriaphyllia.
 

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So Euphyllia have been split into a different genus and is now recognized as Fimbriaphyllia. The only two species left in Euphyllia are E. cristata and E. glabrescens (torches). Hammers, frogspawn & octospawn are all part of Fimbriaphyllia.
Man this is the first I've ever read about this. Thanks for sending me down the rabbit hole for the last hour. Gonna have to call myself a frimbriaphyllia fan from now on... it doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well though.
 

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So Euphyllia have been split into a different genus and is now recognized as Fimbriaphyllia. The only two species left in Euphyllia are E. cristata and E. glabrescens (torches). Hammers, frogspawn & octospawn are all part of Fimbriaphyllia.
Dang dropping facts! See this is cool, just learned something new!


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Crazy thing is, this was changed in 2017. Kinda tells you where we are on the hobby side of things. More things will change with DNA testing in the future (if not already), so common names still apply here. I'm a huge fan of scientific names (as I started off learning from books), but have used common names frequently. I'm still not a fan of "named" corals, except a select few that have stood the test of time and have true lineage.
They (scientists) are looking into galaxea and how they are related to Euphyllia and Frimbriaphyllia and how galaxea have 3 distinct clades/groups, so expect more changes to come as more DNA sequencing is done.
 

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That’s pretty interesting. I actually have just started to look into scientific names myself. I think it’s cool as a hobbyist to learn it and educate ourselves. I think early on when I started the hobby in 2015 names were as crazy or chaotic to follow like they are now and days. Now someone will buy a coral and instead of just trying to find the name for it they’ll just give it a new name and now you’ll have the same coral with like 20 different names for it. So complicated so I came to the realization you can’t rename the scientific names unless you’re a scientist and they don’t tend to rename corals that often haha. Here’s to this new adventure, starting with frimbriaphyllia!


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That’s pretty interesting. I actually have just started to look into scientific names myself. I think it’s cool as a hobbyist to learn it and educate ourselves. I think early on when I started the hobby in 2015 names were as crazy or chaotic to follow like they are now and days. Now someone will buy a coral and instead of just trying to find the name for it they’ll just give it a new name and now you’ll have the same coral with like 20 different names for it. So complicated so I came to the realization you can’t rename the scientific names unless you’re a scientist and they don’t tend to rename corals that often haha. Here’s to this new adventure, starting with frimbriaphyllia!


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I think knowing genus and species goes a long way in this hobby, but I'm kinda old school that way.
 

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I think it’s good to have that type of perspective though. I feel you’re able to connect the past history with new school era way of thinking and still keep that sense of love and passion for generations. Like culture and society today, it’s always ever changing but great to hear and see with the newer generation take a liking to some of the older ways of life and it’s get instilled and combined with the modern thinking creating its own sense of worth.


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