Newb question--How long do you have to mix salt

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Finally set up a water mixing station and surprisingly no leaks. I am not much of a plumber but I copied Shnitzels mixing station design and I think I got it correct.

So how long do you have to mix salt. I got some d-d salt. I assume 2-4 hours of mixing. Then can you use it right away or do you need to wait 24 hours and if so why.
 

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So after 8-10 hours of mixing , can it be used immediately or does it still need to sit overnight.

I read the instructions for the d-d. They are as good as going to pet mart and asking for saltwater advice. Did not provide much helpful info except that I should check salinity at 25 degrees.
 

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So after 8-10 hours of mixing , can it be used immediately or does it still need to sit overnight.

I read the instructions for the d-d. They are as good as going to pet mart and asking for saltwater advice. Did not provide much helpful info except that I should check salinity at 25 degrees.
Yes, it can be used after mixed and does not need to sit overnight. Make sure that you add the salt to the water and water to the salt. Also, try to get the temp close so that your tank is at so the temp doesn't drop too much.
 
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Got a newb question too....I usually mix when Im ready to use, but I see guys mixing 200g. Question is how long can you keep the mix for before it's bad or is it indefinite? And if you need to keep the water moving at all time?
 

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Got a newb question too....I usually mix when Im ready to use, but I see guys mixing 200g. Question is how long can you keep the mix for before it's bad or is it indefinite? And if you need to keep the water moving at all time?
It depends on the salt. Some salts have "vitamins" in them and need to be used ASAP as the vitamins will start to break down.
 
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Got a newb question too....I usually mix when Im ready to use, but I see guys mixing 200g. Question is how long can you keep the mix for before it's bad or is it indefinite? And if you need to keep the water moving at all time?
good questions. wondering the same now. when i buy my water it will normally sit in the jug for 2 weeks before i actually use it.
 

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It depends on the salt. Some salts have "vitamins" in them and need to be used ASAP as the vitamins will start to break down.
Do you have a preference for certain salts and why.

I chose d-d because dkh around 9-10. Considered Red Sea ( not the Pro version) which is around 7.8 I believe. Red Sea Pro has pretty high dkh.
 

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Do you have a preference for certain salts and why.

I chose d-d because dkh around 9-10. Considered Red Sea ( not the Pro version) which is around 7.8 I believe. Red Sea Pro has pretty high dkh.
For me, just regular IO. It's consistent and inexpensive. I dose so I'm not looking to replenish CA or Alk or Mg just other trace elements.
 

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What kind of salt did the store use that you use to buy from? If not D-D, you may want to do smaller more frequent changes to let your system get used to the new salt
 

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What kind of salt did the store use that you use to buy from? If not D-D, you may want to do smaller more frequent changes to let your system get used to the new salt
They used Red Sea pro. I am going to be using 5 gallon daily changes for a while. My water volume is about 180 gallons (180 tank, 30 gallon sump, 20 gallon refugium and then minus live rock and equipment sitting in sump) A good friend uses d-d and has the nicest coral I've ever seen, that had a great deal to do with choosing the brand
 
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It depends on the salt. Some salts have "vitamins" in them and need to be used ASAP as the vitamins will start to break down.
I switched from RSCP to TM(not pro). I'm just curious because I would like mix on ready, but unsure as to the shelf life and if I need to keep constant flow. I don't want to fix what's not broken, but it would be nice to have premix ready to use..
 

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Instant ocean for me.. used just about everything else out there. I always try to mix for about 6 hours, 50 gal at a time. I try to keep 150 on hand, keeping it mixed with just a korallia powerhead. I don't think it's necessary but I feel better. From my understanding, I don't think it's a big deal keeping large amounts of synthetic salt mixed up. With that being said, NSW has organics it, which can start to die off / foul the water, if not used immediately.
 
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from the standard reefing texts and what maintenance guys have told me you only need to make sure the salt is dissolved then its good to use. I think they were referring to IO because its a simple salt, one of the quickest to dissolve and consistent (also the cheapest). they would start mixing right away when they got to a job and used it the same hour. IME it depends a lot on the salt brand, and the more "complex" the salt mix the more considerations such as:

1. the salt must be completely dissolved. there must not be any more particulates. salt that is still dissolving is considered caustic if I recall.
2. the additives must be dissolved or have completed their reactions. this is where reef salts can be confusing because the typical addicitives like Ca HCO3, Mg and trace sometimes take a while, and presumably undergo a series of of reactions then re precipitate out (that brown crap). so its hard to tell when you get the desired final product
3. some additives degrade and must be used immediately, like the vitamins in Reef Crystals or the organics in TMP / Bioactif
4. NSW has organics and living things and must be circulated and aerated like the DT tank water. I try not to make my mixing station biologically active for this reason.

Ive made 200g batches of salt water (TM, TMP, TM bioactif, IO, RC, Salinity, Oceanic, etc) and kept them circulating for a month without any change in chemistry I could dectect. I used to aerate to help match pH (increase pH most of the time by blowing off CO2), and even had a chiller attached to one of my previous mixing stations to match temp but that was a lot of work.
 

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