Red Sea NoPox users

[bustayanky]

Can I tag along? I wanted to know if there are any ill effects of reducing phosphates and nitrates quickly in a fish only system?

 

[nicodim55]

Can I tag along? I wanted to know if there are any ill effects of reducing phosphates and nitrates quickly in a fish only system?

Yeah no worries buddy are you using NoPox too?

 

[bustayanky]

Well I was thinking GFO/Carbon, cheato, W/C, and I have Blue Life Phosphate Control.

 

[nicodim55]

Well I was thinking GFO/Carbon, cheato, W/C, and I have Blue Life Phosphate Control.

I used all of the above but could never lower my Nitrates I took my GFO offline but still have carbon/chaetos.

 

[SC50964]

Ok thank you, how long did it take for you to notice a drop in Nitrates and did your water get cloudy?

I dosed according to the instruction and had nitrate reduced from 80 to 10 ppm after one day. It was like my skimmer got supercharged. I did notice the water got a bit cloudy but certainly not to a point that bothered me. Probably due to the UV and carbon that I have in the sump. I've been using this daily on my FOWLR system for 2 months now. Fish seem happier too.


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[nicodim55]

Top pic before NoPox you can really tell the difference in water clarity. ��

 

[Jerry Williams]

A skimmer is a must while using NoPoX. NoPoX will delete oxygen, so the skimmer is needed to add it back in. Also, the skimmer is what removes the bacteria you want removed. I have over 200 gallons. I added more than what is suggested after following the directions for a few days. I bumped it up to 40 ML split up, 20 mil in the morning and 20 mil in the evening.Within the first 5 days I saw the water become very clear. There are several variables that may be contributing to your cloudiness, such as the number of fish and how often you feed. I didn't notice any details in that way. Be sure you have all carbon removed. I never have used a UV setup. You should see a jump in the amount of skim dross. In my case I went from 180+ ppm to 5ppm in about 6 weeks. Now I add 20ppm in the morning.
I have had no deaths or problems with fish, I have 38 fish total now. You may see an increase of algae but it will subside after the bacteria your feeding with the carbon ( that is what NoPoX is) propagates and starts doing its 'thing'.
LSMFT
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[nicodim55]

A skimmer is a must while using NoPoX. NoPoX will delete oxygen, so the skimmer is needed to add it back in. Also, the skimmer is what removes the bacteria you want removed. I have over 200 gallons. I added more than what is suggested after following the directions for a few days. I bumped it up to 40 ML split up, 20 mil in the morning and 20 mil in the evening.Within the first 5 days I saw the water become very clear. There are several variables that may be contributing to your cloudiness, such as the number of fish and how often you feed. I didn't notice any details in that way. Be sure you have all carbon removed. I never have used a UV setup. You should see a jump in the amount of skim dross. In my case I went from 180+ ppm to 5ppm in about 6 weeks. Now I add 20ppm in the morning.
I have had no deaths or problems with fish, I have 38 fish total now. You may see an increase of algae but it will subside after the bacteria your feeding with the carbon ( that is what NoPoX is) propagates and starts doing its 'thing'.
LSMFT
GLWNoPoX

Thank u for the detailed info so you're saying I should not use any carbon at all? I have about 20 fish and I feed them a lot. I don't think the cloudiness is due to my feeding regiment because I fed the same before nopox. The Skimmer does remove more than my other skimmer did.

 

[janiners305]

I dosed 20ml in 2 weeks nitrate was undetectable and p04 was at 0.00 so i finally took gfo offline and i does 12ml a day and feed the tank

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[Jerry Williams]

Thank u for the detailed info so you're saying I should not use any carbon at all? I have about 20 fish and I feed them a lot. I don't think the cloudiness is due to my feeding regiment because I fed the same before nopox. The Skimmer does remove more than my other skimmer did.

Yes,that is what I am saying. I did remove all carbon. In fact, I had several bags of carbon that I forgot about in my 'fuge. Once I removed them the pace of Nitrate reduction sped up. Keep a daily log for reference. If you're like me you will forget what you did a few days back. This way once you have Nitrates at what you want, a balanced daily dose can be configured. As far as adding carbon back in, I don't know since it will remove the NoPoX.
I don't do any wet skimming since the removal of that much water will change your chemistry. I'd be interested to see if that makes any difference.
If you search the 'net for carbon dosing or Vodka dosing, you will find lots of information that you can glean.
As a side note if you want to also reduce your Phosphates, NoPoX will do that but it takes a longer time to do so.
Jerry

 

[Jerry Williams]

I forgot to mention that NoPoX will kill your chaeto if you run it to the point that you remove all Nitrates. So, be careful as it is a two edged sword.

 

[nicodim55]

Yes,that is what I am saying. I did remove all carbon. In fact, I had several bags of carbon that I forgot about in my 'fuge. Once I removed them the pace of Nitrate reduction sped up. Keep a daily log for reference. If you're like me you will forget what you did a few days back. This way once you have Nitrates at what you want, a balanced daily dose can be configured. As far as adding carbon back in, I don't know since it will remove the NoPoX.
I don't do any wet skimming since the removal of that much water will change your chemistry. I'd be interested to see if that makes any difference.
If you search the 'net for carbon dosing or Vodka dosing, you will find lots of information that you can glean.
As a side note if you want to also reduce your Phosphates, NoPoX will do that but it takes a longer time to do so.
Jerry

Thanks again Jerry, I will keep everyone posted with my results this week. I have removed the carbon bags and now just have the skimmer running a little wet not fully wet and using filter socks.

 

[nicodim55]

I forgot to mention that NoPoX will kill your chaeto if you run it to the point that you remove all Nitrates. So, be careful as it is a two edged sword.

Ok good to know, so far my chaetos are ok but will keep an eye on them

 

[nicodim55]

I dosed 20ml in 2 weeks nitrate was undetectable and p04 was at 0.00 so i finally took gfo offline and i does 12ml a day and feed the tank

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You're lucky man but I'm sure you don't have a lot of fish as I do

 

[nicodim55]

Well, today is officially the 2nd week of dosing NoPox. Tested Nitrate today and it didn't make any difference I am currently dosing 10ml for my 150g daily. Should I increase it now to 20ml? I started the 1st week with 20ml but the water got cloudy so I reduced it to 10ml this week. Any suggestions or comments are welcome. It makes me want to give up but I know I shouldn't

 

[janiners305]

Never gonna go down cause your not dosing right i told you 18 ml a day man

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[janiners305]

Dose the m7 and dose 18 ml 20 is even fine and give it time like i told you my tank tank a couple weeks as well but i have a ton of culerpa to help assist be patient do a 30 gallon water change and keep dosing

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[nicodim55]

Dose the m7 and dose 18 ml 20 is even fine and give it time like i told you my tank tank a couple weeks as well but i have a ton of culerpa to help assist be patient do a 30 gallon water change and keep dosing

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I started with 20ml but it made the water cloudy that's why I lowered it to 10ml. I'm also dosing MB7 in conjunction

 

[janiners305]

Keep the skimmer skimming on the wet side and 20 gallons water changes a week thats what i did and it worked fast

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[nicodim55]

Keep the skimmer skimming on the wet side and 20 gallons water changes a week thats what i did and it worked fast

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Ok I'll try that