Thoughts and Experiences with PE Mysis?
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And I'm completely okay with that. It's not for everyone and I get that. Everything is different on a different system. But at least your not saying my information is incorrect. Than later stating the same dam thing I said! That will grind my gears, and that is essentially exactly what Cody had done.
You don't think that saying I was wrong and then stating the same information is a bit of a dick move? You first said it wouldn't do anything. Then you stated it would be minimal. I first said it wouldn't be a big amount... You basically told me I was wrong and reworded it to make yourself look better. And my method of feeding helps for my specific system which I also said would vary. Your running a bio ballet reactor, your nitrates should be 0 lol. For those of us who don't use bio pellets, we need to manually, which I also stated, remove these bad chemicals. So again, my method that works for me, probably wouldn't do anything for your system and that's fine. But when the OP makes a thread about murky oily water, yeah I'm going to tell him to pour that shiit out. Nothing wrong with that, next time maybe keep your negative comments to yourself.
It must just be your personality. With out having direct contact, body language and tone of voice are easily miss interpreted. My mistakes, but you definitely were off on the wrong foot to call us crazy for rinsing our food. Then saying your system with all the bells and whistles doesn't have nitrates or phosphates, well duh, you've payed an extra $500+ to make sure of that, those of us who have not branched that far out, have to cut corners.
LOL just buy a better skimmer. Bubble king for the win. Also Randy over @ reefcentral has talked about this http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry
Taken from that article-
"Rinsing Foods and the Effect on Phosphate
Now that we have some information on the phosphate in foods, we can critically examine the concern that many aquarists have about foods, and specifically their rinsing of frozen foods before use. A typical test you see is someone taking a cube of fish food, thawing it, and putting it into a half cup of water. They then test that water for phosphate and find it "off the charts". Let's assume that means 1 ppm phosphate, which would give a very dark blue color in many phosphate tests. Bear in mind this is a thought problem, not an actual measured value, but it is typical of what people think the answer is.
Is that a lot of phosphate? Well, there are two ways to think of the answer.
The first way is as a portion of the total phosphate in that food. A half cup of water at 1 ppm (1 mg/L) phosphate contains a total of 0.12 mg of phosphate. A cube of Formula 2 contains about 11.2 mg of phosphate. So the hypothetical rinsing step has removed about 1 percent of the phosphate in that food. Not really worthwhile, in my opinion, but that decision is one every aquarist can make for themselves.
The second way to look at this rinsing is with respect to how much it reduces the boost to the aquarium phosphate concentration. Using the same calculation as above of 0.12 mg of phosphate, and adding that to 100 gallons total water volume, we find that phosphate that was rinsed away would have boosted the "in tank" phosphate concentration by 0.12 mg/379 L = 0.0003 ppm. That amount washed away does not seem significant with respect to the "in tank" target level of about 50-100 times that level (say, 0.015 to 0.03 ppm), nor does it seem significant relative to the total amount of phosphate actually added each day in foods (which is perhaps 50-1000 times as much, based on input rates from Table 4. Again, the conclusion I make is that rinsing is not really worthwhile, in my opinion."
"Rinsing Foods and the Effect on Phosphate
Now that we have some information on the phosphate in foods, we can critically examine the concern that many aquarists have about foods, and specifically their rinsing of frozen foods before use. A typical test you see is someone taking a cube of fish food, thawing it, and putting it into a half cup of water. They then test that water for phosphate and find it "off the charts". Let's assume that means 1 ppm phosphate, which would give a very dark blue color in many phosphate tests. Bear in mind this is a thought problem, not an actual measured value, but it is typical of what people think the answer is.
Is that a lot of phosphate? Well, there are two ways to think of the answer.
The first way is as a portion of the total phosphate in that food. A half cup of water at 1 ppm (1 mg/L) phosphate contains a total of 0.12 mg of phosphate. A cube of Formula 2 contains about 11.2 mg of phosphate. So the hypothetical rinsing step has removed about 1 percent of the phosphate in that food. Not really worthwhile, in my opinion, but that decision is one every aquarist can make for themselves.
The second way to look at this rinsing is with respect to how much it reduces the boost to the aquarium phosphate concentration. Using the same calculation as above of 0.12 mg of phosphate, and adding that to 100 gallons total water volume, we find that phosphate that was rinsed away would have boosted the "in tank" phosphate concentration by 0.12 mg/379 L = 0.0003 ppm. That amount washed away does not seem significant with respect to the "in tank" target level of about 50-100 times that level (say, 0.015 to 0.03 ppm), nor does it seem significant relative to the total amount of phosphate actually added each day in foods (which is perhaps 50-1000 times as much, based on input rates from Table 4. Again, the conclusion I make is that rinsing is not really worthwhile, in my opinion."
When you check the protein content of PE compared to Hikari the difference between them is quite large. PE Mysis 69.5% Protein. Hikari Mysis 10.5% Protein. Having said that I personally feed Hikari because PE is a bit too big for my Anthias. It's too bad PE doesn't sell a smaller mysis but maybe the size is directly related to the protein content.
Dry has more protein than wet. Tests are done based on what percentage of a gram is protein.
Pulled this from Drfosters
Guaranteed Analysis (from dry weight)
Crude Protein 69.5% min.
Crude Fat 8.35% min.
Crude Fiber 2.75% max.
Ash 5.5% max.
Notice it doesn't mention moisture like Hikari does.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein 10.5% min
Crude Fat 1.0% min
Crude Fiber 2.0% max
Moisture 85.0% max
Pulled this from Drfosters
Guaranteed Analysis (from dry weight)
Crude Protein 69.5% min.
Crude Fat 8.35% min.
Crude Fiber 2.75% max.
Ash 5.5% max.
Notice it doesn't mention moisture like Hikari does.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein 10.5% min
Crude Fat 1.0% min
Crude Fiber 2.0% max
Moisture 85.0% max
