vivid is no joke right door to me, but the only thing i buy from them is water, and thats only if my other LFS is closed. i am a strong believer in mom and pop shops, but vivid doesnt care to make a relationship with its customers. i dont mind driving to reef raft or CC, even tho there a good min away from me. when i go in and talk to tony, you feel welcomed and doesnt try to push you out or blow you off when you ask a question. i have bought two of mr.saltwater books, and i have to say i really didnt learn much from them. there is this one guy on youtube goes by the name newyork steelo ( something like that) who i mind very smart, and helps out in anyway that he can. i dont hate on them at all, just wish the ppl at vivid would be a lil more friendly.