Whos going ? (CFM) Saturday

[JojosReef]

There was some nice selection! Unfortunately the firstborn was too tired and hungry to make it very long, so left with just some oyster feast and masstick.

 

[dpoltsdsu]

Great selection. Got quite a bit

 

[DEWreefing]

Just came back from the show there’s more vendors this time then I’d remembered at the last coral framers market…a lot of nice pieces for fair prices…definitely worth a check if you’re considering going. Got to meet Steve Garrett for the first time and bought some corals from Steve…very nice and friendly guy.


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Steve is a great guy makes deals use to hang out with him at the scmas meeting.

 

[drexel]

Picked up these two croceas. He had a couple squammies, but nothing with a lot of color. I think more squamosas will come in soon, but they usually go fast. I’m holding out for a nice hippopus, maybe I’ll get lucky at RAP?


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[JojosReef]

Picked up these two croceas. He had a couple squammies, but nothing with a lot of color. I think more squamosas will come in soon, but they usually go fast. I’m holding out for a nice hippopus, maybe I’ll get lucky at RAP?


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Same. I'd like a squammie and a hippopus! I was confused talking to him though because he says croceas are easiest and only need 250par, while I've always read that crocea > maxima > squammie/derasa difficulty (also light need,s with croceas SPS+ levels). He does this every day, so maybe everyone else is wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ??

 

[drexel]

Same. I'd like a squammie and a hippopus! I was confused talking to him though because he says croceas are easiest and only need 250par, while I've always read that crocea > maxima > squammie/derasa difficulty (also light need,s with croceas SPS+ levels). He does this every day, so maybe everyone else is wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ??

Yeah, his advice was kinda strange to me and I found it to be off. It kinda came off as salesman-ish to me, which I didn't like. He also told me that some of the information in James Fatherree's book was wrong and more of a myth, so to me that seemed more arrogant than anything. He kept saying that no one else has the colors he does with his clams, as if he was the only one producing these colors. You can produce colors in clams, it's completely random and not something you can "produce". There was a lot that I didn't like about what he said, but I wasn't there to listen to him, I was there to find some nice clams. My advice, buy James Fatherree's new book and keep some happy clams. Give them as much light as you can and always make sure you see new shell growth. I've been keeping/caring for clams since the 90's, so when I hear people say certain things, it kinda makes me cringe.

 

[JojosReef]

Yeah, his advice was kinda strange to me and I found it to be off. It kinda came off as salesman-ish to me, which I didn't like. He also told me that some of the information in James Fatherree's book was wrong and more of a myth, so to me that seemed more arrogant than anything. He kept saying that no one else has the colors he does with his clams, as if he was the only one producing these colors. You can produce colors in clams, it's completely random and not something you can "produce". There was a lot that I didn't like about what he said, but I wasn't there to listen to him, I was there to find some nice clams. My advice, buy James Fatherree's new book and keep some happy clams. Give them as much light as you can and always make sure you see new shell growth. I've been keeping/caring for clams since the 90's, so when I hear people say certain things, it kinda makes me cringe.

Good points, thanks! I have a kindle version of Fatheree's book--wish it were paper b/c the picures are beautiful. My first crocea was unsuccessful. I falsely assumed it was getting enough light under an AI Prime 16HD set on a Saxby schedule peaking at 75%. I borrowed a par meter when it died and, lo and behold, it was getting ~200 at peak, so 95% of the day was <200 par.

Now I'm looking to set up a dedicated light with 35degree reflector for clams to nip that problem in the bud. Either a Kessil or rig the Kessil reflector onto a different led.

 

[drexel]

Good points, thanks! I have a kindle version of Fatheree's book--wish it were paper b/c the picures are beautiful. My first crocea was unsuccessful. I falsely assumed it was getting enough light under an AI Prime 16HD set on a Saxby schedule peaking at 75%. I borrowed a par meter when it died and, lo and behold, it was getting ~200 at peak, so 95% of the day was <200 par.

Now I'm looking to set up a dedicated light with 35degree reflector for clams to nip that problem in the bud. Either a Kessil or rig the Kessil reflector onto a different led.

Yeah, crocea are the hardest to keep clams because of their light demands, but if you give them enough light and the right conditions, then there shouldn't be an issue keeping them. The easier clams are usually the larger species, but because of their size, large tanks are required long term. I'm keeping my croceas and derasa in my nano under a Kessil 500x 2' above the tank with the 35 degree lens. The derasa will be moving to my 90g soon, but I wanted to put some growth on it before I made the move. The key to all clams is making sure there's always new shell growth on the upper margins of the shell, if you don't see the stark white growth, there's not enough light.