Why should we use 0 tds rodi

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So i just got a tds meter and man am i surprise from the readings ive been getting. The water i have at home for drinking i believe is just ro water but when i run out of rodi i use it to top off my tank reads about 8ppm. I know the general rule is to get it close to zero as possible, so my question is why? And also what does it mean if there is a reading, would it mean theres phosphates or nitrates in the water..? I guess i learned you cant really trust some fish stores.
 
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TDS is total dissolved solids which translates to mostly metals by the time it goes through the DI stage. People suggest close to zero but I personally keep it at zero always. Our filtration systems are not really setup to filter metals. As a result over time the 1 or 2 tds saturation will build up and increase in your you aquarium. To my knowledge these metals also like to house themselves in substrate which brews a potential issue in the future.
 
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This kindof a hard one, yet an easy one at the same time.. TDS or "Total Dissolved Solids" are things we often times can't test for, and, potentially can cause problems in our Reef tanks. A few examples of the S in TDS are phosphates, silicates, pestacides etc. Phosphates are often associated with nusance algae blooms. Silicates can also contribute to algae and dinoflagellate blooms. Pestacides, well, kill stuff.
By starting with 0 TDS, we are greatly increasing our chances of success. I.e. only adding things to our tanks we can control or test for. In Anaheim where I live, we use city well water. Various wells have different TDS ratings. Specifically, by my house the water comes out of the tap at a rediculous 1200+ TDS. Yes, you read that right... The city averages different Wells TDS number to meet the Federal mandates of under 900.
There a whole slew of other things making up that TDS number. Some not so bad for us, some really terrible for our tanks. I have been making water at home for the last couple of years, and my tank has been better for it. Trusting water you get from a store just because "It came from a fish store, must be good" is playing with fire. I know full well that there are many stores out there that truely do make 0 TDS water, but many don't. Tap water, well water, or any other source that you can't confirm the quality of is, in my opinion, a horrible idea.
We have all spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars to keep a beautiful piece of the ocean in our homes, why risk all of it on risky water. There are plenty of relatively inexpensive RODI units available at places like BRS or Marine Depot. Being able to control every aspect of what goes into our tanks goes a long way toward long term success..
That said, make sure to know whether your city uses Chloromine versus Chlorine to make sure to get the correct carbon block. But that is another lengthy diatribe...
Or you can look up the BRS video about RODI units and the Chlorine/Chloramine difference...
 
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First off if you ever use your containers to mix water or for salt you will have high tds as the salt is tds. If you have Virgin all Rodi containers than any tds will fuel algae and this is why zero tds is preferred.
 
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http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-04/rhf/feature/index.php

TDS is an electronic way of measuring the purity of freshwater. In this case The water will be the solvent for the crystalline salt you are looking to dissolve into a mix that is as close to NSW as possible.

Just as in the chemistry lab, its best to start with the purest compounds to get the desired affect. Just as in human cooking you get the best results with the best ingredients.

If its important enough for LADWP to measure in the tap water that people drink...
 
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This kindof a hard one, yet an easy one at the same time.. TDS or "Total Dissolved Solids" are things we often times can't test for, and, potentially can cause problems in our Reef tanks. A few examples of the S in TDS are phosphates, silicates, pestacides etc. Phosphates are often associated with nusance algae blooms. Silicates can also contribute to algae and dinoflagellate blooms. Pestacides, well, kill stuff.
By starting with 0 TDS, we are greatly increasing our chances of success. I.e. only adding things to our tanks we can control or test for. In Anaheim where I live, we use city well water. Various wells have different TDS ratings. Specifically, by my house the water comes out of the tap at a rediculous 1200+ TDS. Yes, you read that right... The city averages different Wells TDS number to meet the Federal mandates of under 900.
There a whole slew of other things making up that TDS number. Some not so bad for us, some really terrible for our tanks. I have been making water at home for the last couple of years, and my tank has been better for it. Trusting water you get from a store just because "It came from a fish store, must be good" is playing with fire. I know full well that there are many stores out there that truely do make 0 TDS water, but many don't. Tap water, well water, or any other source that you can't confirm the quality of is, in my opinion, a horrible idea.
We have all spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars to keep a beautiful piece of the ocean in our homes, why risk all of it on risky water. There are plenty of relatively inexpensive RODI units available at places like BRS or Marine Depot. Being able to control every aspect of what goes into our tanks goes a long way toward long term success..
That said, make sure to know whether your city uses Chloromine versus Chlorine to make sure to get the correct carbon block. But that is another lengthy diatribe...
Or you can look up the BRS video about RODI units and the Chlorine/Chloramine difference...
Ill probably buy a rodi system in a few months, because i want to start mixing my own salt to. So you recommend brs? Can you drink rodi water? Was thinking about just replacing my drinking filter in my sink.
 
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I don't think TDS detects NO3 or PO4 (but don't quote me on it). We tend to stick to zero TDS because like what ndrwater said, we want to increase our chances of having a long term successful reef tank.

Ill probably buy a rodi system in a few months, because i want to start mixing my own salt to. So you recommend brs? Can you drink rodi water? Was thinking about just replacing my drinking filter in my sink.
You can drink RO water but not DI side. Drinking pure water is a really really good solvent; your body will probably piss out all its minerals/elements if you drink it regularly. Although, I drink DI water ONLY if someone feeds me a dish that has a weeks worth of salt in it (that one fried chicken food trunk I can never remember)
 
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Heres a stupid question can the tds be diluted? Like mixing 10tds with 0tds would it be 5tds now? And i think my 5gal jugs are making my readings higher. Whats the best way to clean them out?
 
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Many Chemicals will not show up on the TDS meter. For example; Chloramine, Chlorine, Ammonia. These are primarily processed by the Carbon aspect of the filtration system. There is much potential for problems with inadequate or spent Carbon filters.
 

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