Thanks! Yeah they have seen it and they just stare at it and get close, but right above the nem is my orange spotted rabbits hiding spot. So, when he goes in it the clowns back off. I will see about blocking that hole (he can still access the cave from the right back side of the rock work) and see if the clown will host eventually. I cant wait till the halides turn on and this nem should open up all the way.