are we going back to bio balls

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o I been out of the loop for a while. I am seeing all these media you put into the sump for filtration like old school bio balls. are we going backwards? should I breakout my bioball from the closet?
 

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Not sure plastic compares to porous media any more than PC's compare to T5's. Check out some of the SPS tanks on reefcentral using bio media there's even a TOTM or two. Technology has changed.
 

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any type of maintenance to these new media?
From what I've read stack vertically in something like an egg crate box so you can shake a bit to get the detritus off every so often. Detritus is why bioballs are awful...

Does this porous media reduce nitrates ?
Some does and some doesn't, it depends on how fine the pores are and how much water is flowing through them.
 
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What we noticed is, if you use porous media you want it after your prefilter. Detritus is really detrimental on the long run as it clog up there pores. We have our own developef media that is porus, yet at the same time not brittle and break apart as the current one on the market.
 
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Does anyone know if the use of these porous medias will help produce increased amounts of bacteria that will out compete nuisance Bacteria such as dinos and cyano?
I spoke with Dr. Tim at max and he informed me that there are bacteria that colonize in the rock and sand, then there are Free floating bacteria. From what he made it sound like, it is the free floating bacterial species that were in competition with these nuisance bacteria. Any ideas?
 

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I'm gonna get and under gravel filter. Maybe a nice waterfall hang on back. I'm going old school
 

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The concept to siporax, matrix and marine pure is that they have a larger surface area for bacteria to colonize than live rock. Siporax apparently the most with something like 27 times more surface area, matrix with slightly less (20 times) and marine pure I believe even less but all three much more than live rock.

They do not provide food for bacteria but rather a place for aerobic and anerobic bacteria to colonize. The amount of bacteria is simply dependent on the nutrient load in your tank. So yes, they are a little like bio balls. Detritus will clog up the pores so ideally you want them in an area that has minimal detritus accumulation. And you can rinse them off, if you think it is necessary. They seem to do best in a slow flow area and as has been previously mentioned, positioned after pre filter(sock). Stacking them has been thought to promote less detritus accumulation and ease of rinsing if necessary.

They take probably 2-3 months to kick in (colonize adequate bacteria). They work primarily in reducing nitrates but somewhat on phosphates. The porous nature of the material provides colonization to both nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria.

Siporax is sintered glass and does not release anything in the tank. Marine pure is a different material (ceramic) and has been suggested as possibly a source of aluminum
 
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The concept to siporax, matrix and marine pure is that they have a larger surface area for bacteria to colonize than live rock. Siporax apparently the most with something like 27 times more surface area, matrix with slightly less (20 times) and marine pure I believe even less but all three much more than live rock.

They do not provide food for bacteria but rather a place for aerobic and anerobic bacteria to colonize. The amount of bacteria is simply dependent on the nutrient load in your tank. So yes, they are a little like bio balls. Detritus will clog up the pores so ideally you want them in an area that has minimal detritus accumulation. And you can rinse them off, if you think it is necessary. They seem to do best in a slow flow area and as has been previously mentioned, positioned after pre filter(sock). Stacking them has been thought to promote less detritus accumulation and ease of rinsing if necessary.

They take probably 2-3 months to kick in (colonize adequate bacteria). They work primarily in reducing nitrates but somewhat on phosphates. The porous nature of the material provides colonization to both nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria.

Siporax is sintered glass and does not release anything in the tank. Marine pure is a different material (ceramic) and has been suggested as possibly a source of aluminum
Could not said it any better
 

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