$399 AquaIllumination SOL Blue

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Should be cheaper. When these guys do a lil R&D and grow full sps tanks with success and tell people at what height to put them out then charge away. Until then its all trial and error with a lot of over head.
 
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Should be cheaper. When these guys do a lil R&D and grow full sps tanks with success and tell people at what height to put them out then charge away. Until then its all trial and error with a lot of over head.
No offense my man, but these are still the gold standard for LEDs for hardcore reefers with a big budget. In my hands, my sps growth exploded and colors really popped under these lights.

The R&D is pretty solid. There were no runs of burned out units like with the PFO solaris. They dont mess around with yellow and green LEDs, which coral dont really need. Although, I have nothing against rendering coral more beatiful to our eyes.
 
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Very familiar with the unit. I had the
3 units of the Sol blues over my old tank, a year ago.

And no offense taken "deep
pockets."

When I spoke to one of the AI representatives at RAP last year. I asked him questions about coral placement, coverage, etc... He couldn't give me a real answer and was no help.


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They will come out new model calling AI Sol Phoenix" that why they decrease the price since people will get the new model instead buying the old model. The new one is $499 and the nano is $299
"Phoenix" is the temporary name... how unfitting as this LED never died and was "reborn" nearly the same except for wireless link to its controller.

Still, I give props to any company that continues to innovate and slug it out in this economy.
 
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"Phoenix" is the temporary name... how unfitting as this LED never died and was "reborn" nearly the same except for wireless link to its controller.

Still, I give props to any company that continues to innovate and slug it out in this economy.
+1. Innovation/new tech, R&D that's the way to move forward in todays world.
 
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Should be cheaper. When these guys do a lil R&D and grow full sps tanks with success and tell people at what height to put them out then charge away. Until then its all trial and error with a lot of over head.
So wicked fish, what would you recommend for lighting, if not LED?

i understand that there are a TON of posts regarding this but i just what your specific input.

i currently run metal halides on two cubes i have.

i just recently bought a 48x24x8 frag tank and am looking for a new light fixture. i mostly have LPS and mushroom, a few SPS.

thinking about maybe getting 2x400w MH, but it seems a bit overkill for the frag tank. also saw some friends recently running T-5 and LEDs together over their tanks.
 
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I'm no authority on lighting.

Shoot, I have had trouble with smooth acros and 25% of my wild pieces coloring up.

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Don't know If 10x80 watt power module is over kill or my tank isn't mature. Even worse I have some small colonies with Rb's. (had RB's just nuked them via interceptor, killed my shrimp, crabs and everything else in that family including my RB's)!

AI's are excellent for mushrooms, softies and zoanthids. I know of one person keeping a large system of mostly Sps with pretty great results. Their light is over 30" over the Frag tank and every 3 feet they have fixtures. It's a good 30" wide. With two units one in front and one in back at 2 feet in between. They have them horizontal. If you pm me I can tell you where to see it.

Not gonna deny Sps grow way more with leds. I just had issues with a lot of bleaching multiple times. I even used the 70 optics.

If money and heat aren't an issue...... I would always use metal halides and especially 400 watt radiums. Never seen a tank do poorly with this set up.


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I'm no authority on lighting I have had trouble with smooth acros and 25% of my wild pieces coloring up. Don't know If 10x80 watt power module is over kill or my tank isn't mature. Even worse I have some small colonies with Rb's.

AI's are excellent for mushrooms, softies and zoanthids. I know of one person keeping a large system of mostly Sps with pretty great results. Their light is over 30" over the Frag tank and every 3 feet they have fixtures. It's a good 30" wide. With two units one in front and one in back at 2 feet in between. They have them horizontal. If you pm me I can tell you where to see it.

Not gonna deny Sps grow way more with leds. I just had issues with a lot of bleaching multiple times. I even used the 70 optics.

If money and heat aren't an issue...... I would always use metal halides and especially 400 watt radiums. Never seen a tank do poorly with this set up.


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Wicked if I have a 48"x24"x24" would a fixture with 2 150 watt hqi and 4 t5's be enought for lighting for softies, Lps and some SPS. and what light cycle would be best????????????????????????:whoo:
 
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I would say yes. I would prefer 2x250 watt single ended metal halides that support a radium bulb with 2 54 wattx48" T5's for actinics. Or a 6x54 watt power module. Cody can chime in he has the same size tank.
 
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Wicked if I have a 48"x24"x24" would a fixture with 2 150 watt hqi and 4 t5's be enought for lighting for softies, Lps and some SPS. and what light cycle would be best????????????????????????:whoo:

Put those 150's in some nice reflectors and they will be plenty bright....im running one of the new hamilton de reflectors and my tank is super bright im suprised how much the reflector helped. Its easily double as bright as my uncles tank and he is running 250 watt halides with crap reflectors
 
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Agree a good reflector will help. But if the ballast stinks even a great reflector will be a waste.

I bought some single ended Hamilton reflectors and my 250 w Hamilton mh still not enough light for my corals. Par was in the low 200's.


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gentlemen, you are missing the point

the main obstacle preventing reefers from going LED is the high upfront cost. Well these units are tried and true, made in the USA, and on sale, so why not get one brand new? Made in the USA means high quality (not chinese made, patent-infringement, no way to return, or some canadien or italian company that looks down on Americans), excellent customer service, an American in Iowa who feels responsible for your happiness (or lack of in Wickedfish's case LOL) with their product. Im by no means associated with the company, just a very satisfied SPS reefer that hopes other will consider LEDs, especially AIs since they really do work, and are made by your fellow Americans.

especially if you have a small tank, or a frag tank, LEDs are ideal. first, they are very bight. Each AI unit has 72watts of light. Most of that power is light, not heat. T5 and MH are very inefficent in transforming electricity into light. Thats why AIs are equivalent to 400w MH, and no one I know runs them 100% all the time. How can these lights only be good for low light coral, when people complain about them burning SPS/high light coral? Since they are modular, why dont people just add another unit? Can't blame aquailluminatons for not having black and white recommendations for tank height mounting. Do Ice Cap, Radium, Geissman, etc have mounting recs for T5 or MH lights?

Then the heat... is a small tank is the biggest enemy. You will need a chiller if you go T5/MH. with LEDs you may need a heater!

Then there are logistics like portability. AI's/other LEDs are the size of a text book. They are self-ballasted and all you need is the mount it.

Then the long term costs. Why are LEDs considered "green/environmenatally friendly" lighting? Because this LED will work in 5 years nearly the same as it works today. No bulb replacement in 9-18months, or 9-12 months, or worrying about dropping these expensive bulbs. Even bulbs around the home are going LED. I would change out every bulb in my house if it werent for the current high cost. Could you imagine changing all you bulbs at home when you first child is born, and not having to change them again until he/she went off to college?

So the question is if these can keep SPS/LPS in the long run? Well a lot of people on Reef Central are showing off great tanks with LEDs. You will never know unless you try. If $399 is still to much, try the cheaper knock offs on Ebay first.
 
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I gather you are pretty happy with your purchase and are raising your led army in arms. Cool:)

Your right about other lights not coming with specs. Good argument, because the only rebuttal is that mh and t5 are tried and a good and have been their job rather nicely, not efficiently, but got it done.

Otherwise you wouldn't have colonies.

I don't know how many months you have your AI's? I do wish that you can log color from start of transition (via photos) to once monthly with white only leds, on. This way the royal blues aren't giving the eye that 399$ edge.

I only gave my units from September 2010 till March 2011. All of my millies and zoos looked way better than now. My Acros just hated this light and either bleached or browned out. I tried different heights, intensities color combos, etc. Wouldn't mind trying it again in a Frag tank but not in my display.

My buddy and I are building a strip with 48 leds. I want more control of blues and shimmer in my tank and with luck more growth.

So I'm not ruling out leds just not as a complete transition in my case. And I am definitely not saying don't buy AI's, they work just not for me at that time.

If what works for me, works for everyone, there would be only one company that sells everything.




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Btw 90% of my house has led lighting went from 965 watts to 180 watts when all on.

(chandelier went from over 500 watts to 39 watts total.) Costco has nice bulbs for indoor and out door for a decent price.

Initial cost is hefty but why not it's my castle not a hobby.


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Wicked if I have a 48"x24"x24" would a fixture with 2 150 watt hqi and 4 t5's be enought for lighting for softies, Lps and some SPS. and what light cycle would be best????????????????????????:whoo:
I've got a 4x2x2 with a 6 lamp powermodule. Its plenty bright for SPS. **Edit- It just depends on your preference I would say. You may get away with that fixture I just think the 150w may be a tad weak. Shimmer is nice though and the t5s lack that.

I would love to go LED... someday but I don't have a G lying around unfortunately. Also although people are growing their corals, I still would like to wait a little longer for better and more advanced technology before I take the plunge.

I do think its lame for those that just say recently paid the higher price to only see it drop the very next month. Does AI offer any kind of rebate?
 
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