Brightwell phosphat e liquid remover

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Just pick this up at a local fish store. The concept seems better than running gfo and messing with rinsing gfo. I read up on this and it is a binding agent so what happens to the sand like by product after a long time. Anyone using this product over a year? I just want to know the long term effects or is this a product to suck out phosphate like a kick starter and then ultimately you need to media or macro aglae to get your phosphate down. Any information is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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It works. Several companies make different versions of it. Some people have put it on their doer unit and dosed it daily. It can get expensive, and some corals (mostly sps) don't like large doses. If you don't have a big problem with phosphate, it is a really good choice
 
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It works. Several companies make different versions of it. Some people have put it on their doer unit and dosed it daily. It can get expensive, and some corals (mostly sps) don't like large doses. If you don't have a big problem with phosphate, it is a really good choice
Thanks for your input Jose. Have you used this in your tank? If so what results did you get and how long did it take to remove phosphate from water and from leaking live rocks?

How is brightwell different from other liquid phosphate removers? A lot of reefers are saying there is a chemical called lanthanum chloride which binds with phosphate and precipitates which makes water cloudy for some time. The byproduct looks like fine sand. I read on different threads with time the bond will break and phosphate will be reintroduced into the tank and cause a phosphate outbreak. Has anyone used brightwell for a consider amount of time? Is this product safe for long term usage is what I really want to know?


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I'd like to know what other people say about this to.. I use blue life phos rx from time to time if my po4 s a bit higher than were it should be but once in a while.. No effect as it is not being use regularly. Skimmer get crazy though and can drop po4 rapidly.
 
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Any brightwell reps? Anyone?


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Jeremy will be at RAP next month... he would be the guy to ask.

Chad at Coral Gazers highly recommends it as well. I've never used it... phosphate removers scare me as I'm afraid with any of them if you use to much your p04 will drop suddenly and you will bleach your corals.
 
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Don't do it use gfo instead. Why you might ask, well it can burn the gills of the fish leaving you with dead fish. I learned the hard way with the help of very bad advice which I'm still pissed about.
 
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I use the bluelife product and I like it. Use with caution as it works VERY well. It will strip the PO4 but, it comes out drop by drop so you can use sparingly. No ill effect to fish or corals. I did overdue it initially and lightened up a lot of SPS due to high initial PO4(cement frag plugs). I would recommend it but, with anything in this hobby, use with caution. I dose it near or, into my skimmer.

It is expensive though. A small bottle is about 21 bucks or so.
 
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I use the bluelife product and I like it. Use with caution as it works VERY well. It will strip the PO4 but, it comes out drop by drop so you can use sparingly. No ill effect to fish or corals. I did overdue it initially and lightened up a lot of SPS due to high initial PO4(cement frag plugs). I would recommend it but, with anything in this hobby, use with caution. I dose it near or, into my skimmer.

It is expensive though. A small bottle is about 21 bucks or so.
So maybe we can get specific on how it was successful in your experience. How big was your tank? What was your starting phosphate level? How much you dosed and duration? One week one month? And how low is your phosphate after using liquid phosphate removal? Lastly how long as it been since application and are you still using it?


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Jeremy will be at RAP next month... he would be the guy to ask.

Chad at Coral Gazers highly recommends it as well. I've never used it... phosphate removers scare me as I'm afraid with any of them if you use to much your p04 will drop suddenly and you will bleach your corals.
I will be there asking Jeremy some tough questions. Lol


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Thanks for your input Jose. Have you used this in your tank? If so what results did you get and how long did it take to remove phosphate from water and from leaking live rocks?

How is brightwell different from other liquid phosphate removers? A lot of reefers are saying there is a chemical called lanthanum chloride which binds with phosphate and precipitates which makes water cloudy for some time. The byproduct looks like fine sand. I read on different threads with time the bond will break and phosphate will be reintroduced into the tank and cause a phosphate outbreak. Has anyone used brightwell for a consider amount of time? Is this product safe for long term usage is what I really want to know?


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it works well, and all the products are lanthanum chloride as the major ingredient, just different concentration. I have heard of people getting it from pool supply stores and diluting it. lots of larger aquarium places (aquarium of the pacific, sea world,...) use it to deal with phosphates. It can be dangerous, because you can def drop phospates really quick, this disturb the water chemistry to suddenly. I have seen people put this on one of their doser heads, and deal with phosphates that way, but this is for an advanced reefer than knows about how many ppm of phosphates are generally pumped out a day, or someone who wants to test daily. Regarding the fish and gills, yes it does affect them. From Jeremy a few years ago at a Marine Depot luncheon, it effects puffers, some wrasses, angels, sharks, boxfish and stingrays mostly.
 
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