Chemiclean experience?

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Hey guys, I have a cyano issue that I can't seem to beat. I spend countless hours each week siphoning this stuff out of the tank only for it to come back with a vengeance. I bought chemiclean as an easy way out but have been hesitant to put chemical into this tank. Corals are coloring up and fish are all happy. Just don't want to jeopardize anything. Please share your experience.



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What's your NO3 at? What's your PO4 at? Oddly enough, I beat my cyano problem by dosing KNO3
 
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One of the reasons why you might have it and i'm going by the picture I see it could be a flow issue, where your flow has pushed all the nutrients into one area try increasing the flow where it's mainly built up, and keep siphoning off hopefully it might do the trick, and from what I've read it can sometimes a in balance of phos&No3.
Also there are a few products on the market that claim to get rid of this to. Good luck


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I have used it also.. Back when the tank was new, I could pull 5#'s, yes... POUNDS of the stuff out every couple of days..I went with a 3 pronged approach. UV, Phos reactor, and ChemiClean.
Follow the directions to the letter, know the skimmer has to be off, know that it works. I have an SPS dominated tank, and would' hesitate to use it in future.
Good luck..
 
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I've used it in the past, works great!! It'll be gone by the second day regardless of how it looks after the first day lol i think your suppose to do a water change right after and run carbon. Used it twice on different reef tanks and no casualties at all, just follow directions thoroughly
 

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Thanks guys, I feed heavily and so I know my phosphate level is up there! I hooked up my gfo a couple of days ago so hopefully it will make an impact. Will need to measure my no3 and phosphate level to confirm. I repositioned my tunzes today so we'll see if that helps. Did another big water change today. I'll give it another week and if no improvement I'll consider chemiclean


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I've used it in the past and had zero side effects on coral or fish and best of all it absolutely works, water change and carbon after.
 

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If there's enough positive experience out there I might just use it sooner


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Use it with no side effects. Follow direction on it. Skimmer could stay on but might over flow. So tune it down. After 48 hrs do a water change.
 

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Did you guys siphon as much of the cyano out before dosing?


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What you do have to remember though is that you need to find out what was causing it in the first place as using chemicals might be good for a short term fix but in my opinion nine times out of 10 it will come back worse.


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It does work, but I agree you should figure out the root cause. Repositioning the powerheads would be the first thing I would have done as well. Its happened the opposite for me a couple of times. I changed the location of some powerheads then a few weeks later a couple areas that have low flow now would grow the cyano.

I'd personally start with something similar to what Mike said, dosing No3 if your Nitrates are at zero and your phosphate is climbing. I would also add a bacterial product for a couple of weeks. Suck the cyano out as you go. Use the chemiclean as a last resort.
 

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**** - glad the regal and anthias are doing well (i think those are the ones you got from me?). You remember my tank with cyano?

I finally got rid of it by going lights out for 3-4 days then using chemiclean on the 4th day. I did have one issue and bleached one of my corals but im sure thats not from chemiclean.

Just like you though, i couldnt figure out where the source of my problem was. It may have been that i wasnt replacing my filter socks enough. Its been a few weeks since dosing and no sign of cyano. Hope it doesnt come back.
 
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I had a recent issue with Cyano and used Chemiclean without issues, other than it's a lot of water changes (I skimmed the chemiclean out at the end of the cycle rather than a huge water change but it was a bit of a hassle).

I would suggest trying Coral Snow + MicroBacter7 to out compete the cyano, a lot of people have had great success with eliminating the cyano in about a week. I do it as preventative now.

Here is the NR Thread to make the Coral Snow http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/364821-diy-kz-coral-snow-with-97-purity/ (I bought the smallest bag possible and have a bunch left over, you're welcome to come take some).

All you do is mix equal parts of the Coral Snow mix with the MicroBacter7, let it sit for a few days (to grow the bolster the bacteria) then dose 3-5ml per day. It looks like you have a larger tank than I do but I dose about 3ml on my 70 gallon.

The Coral Snow in general will help clean up your water too, it'll sparkle like it never has before :)

I can mix you up 17oz bottle of the coral snow if you'd like as well. The Calcium Carbonate is just taking up space, stuff lasts forever. Feel free to PM me if want some, not sure if you're in San Diego or San Dimas but San Dimas isn't too far from me.

Edit: Just re-read the thread. The MB7 should also help with reducing Phosphate and bringing things into balance. I haven't done enough research to give you the science behind it but from what I understand it's used on ULN systems.

2nd Edit: The MB and Coral Snow mix will probably be less than the amount of Chemiclean you'd need. I had to dose Chemiclean twice before I got rid of mine, there are a lot of resistant strains out there. While I don't regret using it, I wish I had tried this method before I did.
 

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**** - glad the regal and anthias are doing well (i think those are the ones you got from me?). You remember my tank with cyano?

I finally got rid of it by going lights out for 3-4 days then using chemiclean on the 4th day. I did have one issue and bleached one of my corals but im sure thats not from chemiclean.

Just like you though, i couldnt figure out where the source of my problem was. It may have been that i wasnt replacing my filter socks enough. Its been a few weeks since dosing and no sign of cyano. Hope it doesnt come back.
Yea they are all alive and doing well!!! Other than the Sps tasting, the regal is my favorite fish.


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I had a recent issue with Cyano and used Chemiclean without issues, other than it's a lot of water changes (I skimmed the chemiclean out at the end of the cycle rather than a huge water change but it was a bit of a hassle).

I would suggest trying Coral Snow + MicroBacter7 to out compete the cyano, a lot of people have had great success with eliminating the cyano in about a week. I do it as preventative now.

Here is the NR Thread to make the Coral Snow http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/364821-diy-kz-coral-snow-with-97-purity/ (I bought the smallest bag possible and have a bunch left over, you're welcome to come take some).

All you do is mix equal parts of the Coral Snow mix with the MicroBacter7, let it sit for a few days (to grow the bolster the bacteria) then dose 3-5ml per day. It looks like you have a larger tank than I do but I dose about 3ml on my 70 gallon.

The Coral Snow in general will help clean up your water too, it'll sparkle like it never has before :)

I can mix you up 17oz bottle of the coral snow if you'd like as well. The Calcium Carbonate is just taking up space, stuff lasts forever. Feel free to PM me if want some, not sure if you're in San Diego or San Dimas but San Dimas isn't too far from me.

Edit: Just re-read the thread. The MB7 should also help with reducing Phosphate and bringing things into balance. I haven't done enough research to give you the science behind it but from what I understand it's used on ULN systems.

2nd Edit: The MB and Coral Snow mix will probably be less than the amount of Chemiclean you'd need. I had to dose Chemiclean twice before I got rid of mine, there are a lot of resistant strains out there. While I don't regret using it, I wish I had tried this method before I did.
Thank you for your offer and advice along with everyone else. I spent 2 hrs siphoning cyano this am, and thought to myself that I can't afford to do this every few days. I just went ahead and dosed the tank with chemiclean a few mins ago. I have an air stone going and my skimmer on as well. Keeping my fingers cross that this works. Afterwards, I will definitely be better about my parameters. Wish me luck guys!




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When i was running skimmerless/sumpless for a while and once i had a cyano bloom and after a few larger water changes and this it went away and never came back. Cant say chemipure was the direct cause of making it go away but im sure it helped
 
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