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Does anybody use this in their sumps ? Thought I would give it a try. Bought the 12lb bucket, and added 5 pounds of sand.We will see how it does. Want to grow cheoto and copepods.....

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By the way tank looks cloudy because I just added the mud, normally doesn't look like that, haha
Should clear up in a hour or so....
 

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The truth about that stuff is their are minerals in their that your coral will really benefit from. The ideal situation is to make a tray and when in 4-6 months it's depleted you shut off all pumps and remove the tray and *** new mud. That being said. Let us know if you notice better growth or color. Your weep might have been not putting it in a place where it gets little to no flow for a few days.

I've seen systems that run well with it, but I've seen better systems with out it
 
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I don' t have Fiji mud but I am using Miracle mud and it does work. My palyp extension went extreme after I added it to my sump. I used 40lbs.

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The truth about that stuff is their are minerals in their that your coral will really benefit from. The ideal situation is to make a tray and when in 4-6 months it's depleted you shut off all pumps and remove the tray and *** new mud. That being said. Let us know if you notice better growth or color. Your weep might have been not putting it in a place where it gets little to no flow for a few days.

I've seen systems that run well with it, but I've seen better systems with out it
Will let ya know how it goes. My sump doesn't get a lot of flow. The reason I chose this mud s because you just have to add a little every 4 - 6 months. No need to remove any. Also it does come from the ocean in Fiji.
 
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I don' t have Fiji mud but I am using Miracle mud and it does work. My palyp extension went extreme after I added it to my sump. I used 40lbs.

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Hey Troy, I know you went with the Miracle Mud, i almost did also, but at last minute, thought I would try this....
 
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i really liked the miracle mud in my 14g but didnt use it on m new 45g...after reading this i may wanna use it again for pods. the caribsea mud is totally different then the fiji or miracle mud right? will the mud benefit with any algae problems?
 
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I had some in my sump and I thought it was garbage. Made more of a mess then it was worth. Plus it became a trap for detritus.

I ended up pulling it all out and just left my fuge BB. Now I can easily clean out my fuge.

Ps- every time u stir up ur fuge, ur tank will turn into a cloudy mess.


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I had some in my sump and I thought it was garbage. Made more of a mess then it was worth. Plus it became a trap for detritus.

I ended up pulling it all out and just left my fuge BB. Now I can easily clean out my fuge.

Ps- every time u stir up ur fuge, ur tank will turn into a cloudy mess.


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Not too much of a fan myself due to mess, however I believe it works. If you ever go to miracle mud head quarters you can see for your self. Just look at the huge 500+gallon tank that runs it loaded with some of the fatest fish I've ever seen in aquaria as well as assorted sticks and other coral.

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I had some in my sump and I thought it was garbage. Made more of a mess then it was worth. Plus it became a trap for detritus.

I ended up pulling it all out and just left my fuge BB. Now I can easily clean out my fuge.

Ps- every time u stir up ur fuge, ur tank will turn into a cloudy mess.


Hot Dogs are GOOD!
How much time did you give it Nick ? I don't think its garbage, remember its all natural...it comes from the ocean in Fiji.It does release nutrients to feed the corals naturally. It also helps feed the cheato, to grow faster,and helps breed copepods.
 

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How much time did you give it Nick ? I don't think its garbage, remember its all natural...it comes from the ocean in Fiji.It does release nutrients to feed the corals naturally. It also helps feed the cheato, to grow faster,and helps breed copepods.
I don't think it feeds coral with live food as it is just a mineral Source. Both brands are extracted from places that the mineral level is through the roof. There was talks of making the same stuff into a clean rock or pebbles (synthetic man made,/lab grade)that becomes eroded with flow and does the same thing with out the diarrhea like substance.

I know it's necessary for people who have Sps dominant tanks. I believe people with softy tanks especially harder to keep specimens would benefit from the extra minerals. Aside from that, when would you even know that it's depleted? Tests? Nope. Think of it as a mineral reactor on a level so small that you never really know when to fill.
 
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How much time did you give it Nick ? I don't think its garbage, remember its all natural...it comes from the ocean in Fiji.It does release nutrients to feed the corals naturally. It also helps feed the cheato, to grow faster,and helps breed copepods.
I had it in my tank for almost 2 years. I think that was enough time. Lol

I saw absolutely NO difference after removing it from my system. U don't need mud to grow chaeto or copepods. After removing it, my pod population has stayed exactly the same. In all honesty, u would have been better off adding a DSB or just leaving it the way it was.

I don't believe that just because it comes from the ocean it's automatically good for ur tank. I think it's BS honestly.


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I'm not sure there is a definitive answer on mud. I put it in my refugium four years ago. Replenished it about 3 years ago and otherwise left it alone. I really have no idea if a benefit or detriment. Like many other aspects of this hobby, hard to tell truth from fiction. Manufacturers seem to be boastful in general about their products and hobbyists seem to be biased based on their limited experience. There really is no apparent reliable research on home reefs just anectodal evidence.

My bias is that mud, like sand allows for more substrates in our reef tanks to allow for all that biological magic to take place. Whether over time, if these lose function or not, I don't know or if like magic, maybe they are just an illusion
 
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i use miracle mud & works for me. the reason was to cut off electricity consumption from my tank. some tough times. i cut off my skimmer, GFO reactor, carbon reactor, heater & some other reactor i had on it. did leave my UV though. the reason why i went this route, was because i did end up meeting a marine biologist, a guy that was involve in developing the mud & a water treatment engineer, all in the same place, at the same time. it was like running into the three wise men. i drilled their brains for information. unfortunately, i only retained a bit of their knowledge. all 3 agreed that the more organic your system is, the more it will thrive. especially the engineer, he stressed this idea the most. so i followed their advice. so far my tank has been doing amazingly great. i would say my system is 80% organic. only mechanical thing, is my UV & chemical work comes from a small bag of carbon. i do have a sock, but i have never cleaned it for the past 2 years. they did mentioned that you need an area where detritus collects, for the pods to feed off of. hope it helps. happy reefing!
 
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i use miracle mud & works for me. the reason was to cut off electricity consumption from my tank. some tough times. i cut off my skimmer, GFO reactor, carbon reactor, heater & some other reactor i had on it. did leave my UV though. the reason why i went this route, was because i did end up meeting a marine biologist, a guy that was involve in developing the mud & a water treatment engineer, all in the same place, at the same time. it was like running into the three wise men. i drilled their brains for information. unfortunately, i only retained a bit of their knowledge. all 3 agreed that the more organic your system is, the more it will thrive. especially the engineer, he stressed this idea the most. so i followed their advice. so far my tank has been doing amazingly great. i would say my system is 80% organic. only mechanical thing, is my UV & chemical work comes from a small bag of carbon. i do have a sock, but i have never cleaned it for the past 2 years. they did mentioned that you need an area where detritus collects, for the pods to feed off of. hope it helps. happy reefing!
Glad to hear success stories, you make a lot of sense to me.... will continue using the mud....
 

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