Free Wrasses: 3" Melanurus, 2.5" Scarlet Flasher (Blind)

[Rakie]

Both fish had an adverse reaction to V20 "soft freeze" foods. The melanurus has recovered, the Flasher may be blind for life. Both are free, I would gladly accept an SPS frag.

Both fish became very stressed due to the obvious events, and will absolutely need a QT process.

The Melanurus: eats like a pig, but hasn't taken many pellets, but she will usually try them. She's fine, but she needs a bigger home, it was always my intent to re-house her.

The Scarlet Flasher: Is straight up blind. Because he's blind, he can easily live his life out in a small Nano tank with gentle flow and a cave to lay in. he has become a bottom dweller for obvious reasons. He will perk up when he smells food, but either needs to be fed directly, or housed with fish that will not compete with him. I love the little guy but I can't setup a tank just for him, my family would not be cool with that. He could probably be happy with a cleaner goby pair. Because he doesn't swim much anymore, his metabolism has slowed and he doesn't each much, nor make much waste. He's be good in a softie/Zoo desktop aquarium probably 5+ gallons (Sounds small, but he's blind and doesn't move much).

 

[BeanMachine]

What was the problem with the V20 Soft Freeze?

 

[Zoarder]

What was the problem with the V20 Soft Freeze?

seems to affect mostly wrasses they go blind, and eventually die. My friend lost a lot of them due to that food and also some other guy I know...

 

[BeanMachine]

seems to affect mostly wrasses they go blind, and eventually die. My friend lost a lot of them due to that food and also some other guy I know...

Dayum! Did they discontinue it?

 

[Zoarder]

Dayum! Did they discontinue it?

I still it for sale on MD site so not sure if they fixed the issue or same product but I rather stick to LRS.

 

[janiners305]

Hellooooo that was me i lost 2k in wrasses i posted it it on here when it happend and did you contact chris turk from v20? I have his cell if you need from when i delt with it

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[janiners305]

The pellets are great from v20 tho just the softfreeze is no good on wrasses at all

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[deaclauderdale]

The pellets are great from v20 tho just the softfreeze is no good on wrasses at all

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Does it say 'not for wrasses' on the current packaging? Sounds like a great way for this company to go out of business.

Reef keeping is life!

 

[Reeferfourlife]

Wow thanks for the info. Would never get that food now

 

[Rakie]

I talked with him at length and he spoke with me at RAP. He told me "about 1 out of 1000 people experience this, you're the 4th report I've received", he then told me "Were stopping production of this item until we figure out what the issue is. The only thing we can think is that some of the alcohols we use to prevent the food from freezing The symptoms are always the same".

Either way. The Melanurus is good, she's really stressed though and probably sick or getting sick. And the Flasher is looking worse today.. He's still kicking and I feel like **** flushing a live fish so I'm hoping someone can give him the environment he needs.
[MENTION=7185]janiners305[/MENTION] Yeah I spoke with him at length, and he pulled me into conversation with his Biologist as well. At Rap he gave me their new pellet / flake food. What irked me is he told me over, and over, and over again "This has NEVER happened before!", only to tell me in person "This has happened 1:1000 jars, always the same symptoms".

 

[janiners305]

I talked with him at length and he spoke with me at RAP. He told me "about 1 out of 1000 people experience this, you're the 4th report I've received", he then told me "Were stopping production of this item until we figure out what the issue is. The only thing we can think is that some of the alcohols we use to prevent the food from freezing The symptoms are always the same".

Either way. The Melanurus is good, she's really stressed though and probably sick or getting sick. And the Flasher is looking worse today.. He's still kicking and I feel like **** flushing a live fish so I'm hoping someone can give him the environment he needs.
[MENTION=7185]janiners305[/MENTION] Yeah I spoke with him at length, and he pulled me into conversation with his Biologist as well. At Rap he gave me their new pellet / flake food. What irked me is he told me over, and over, and over again "This has NEVER happened before!", only to tell me in person "This has happened 1:1000 jars, always the same symptoms".

Yea man it blows ill never feed there frozen again but ive been using the pellets he gave you for over a year with my wrasses with no ill effect

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[Playa-1]

V20 "soft freeze" foods
I think I will take a permanent pass on this brand.

 

[innerspark]

Oh wow I'll keep to making my own food. At least then I know what's in it. Good luck on the wrasses I would take them but my other fish will kill them for sure.

 

[Rakie]

Did you work the door at RAP Sunday morning Spark? I think you were assorting reef nutrition bags while I was clicking/stamping people

Oh wow I'll keep to making my own food. At least then I know what's in it. Good luck on the wrasses I would take them but my other fish will kill them for sure.

Well the Melanurus is almost completely better. She still moves a little funky, but it's only noticeable if you know what to look for. The Flasher is pretty messed up though.. He's starting to lose a few scales, and I'm pretty sure the stress alone will make him very susceptible to some form of illness. It's sad, because their normal food is top notch, but the Soft Freeze has alcohols in it to prevent it from freezing, so fish ingest these alcohols.

I mean, things happen.. If the food were tainted, or spoiled, or if I was told right away "this has happened before". But he denied it happened before until the last minute, and only in person he tells me "Oh you're the 4th person whose had this happen. Always the same exact symptoms. About 1:1000 experience this", when literally the day before in text messages he was saying "NEVER in the history of 30 years of this company (Ocean nutrition = V20 Foods) has anything like this ever happened".

 

[innerspark]

Did you work the door at RAP Sunday morning Spark? I think you were assorting reef nutrition bags while I was clicking/stamping people



Well the Melanurus is almost completely better. She still moves a little funky, but it's only noticeable if you know what to look for. The Flasher is pretty messed up though.. He's starting to lose a few scales, and I'm pretty sure the stress alone will make him very susceptible to some form of illness. It's sad, because their normal food is top notch, but the Soft Freeze has alcohols in it to prevent it from freezing, so fish ingest these alcohols.

I mean, things happen.. If the food were tainted, or spoiled, or if I was told right away "this has happened before". But he denied it happened before until the last minute, and only in person he tells me "Oh you're the 4th person whose had this happen. Always the same exact symptoms. About 1:1000 experience this", when literally the day before in text messages he was saying "NEVER in the history of 30 years of this company (Ocean nutrition = V20 Foods) has anything like this ever happened".

Was not me. I was there but I did not work. Maybe next year.

 

[CoralNerd]

V20 "soft freeze" foods
I think I will take a permanent pass on this brand.

I 2nd the vote pass on this brand!

I have six wrasse and it affected four of them. Here's my poor blue flasher wrasse after eating v20 soft freeze

Before eating v20

The fish survived but does not act or look the same. I fed the fish food over seven months ago and the flasher is all marbled color to this day. I should snap another picture, he looks awful. I tried every supplement available to try and get him healthy with no luck.
Pass on this crap

 

[Jetsetter57]

I'm down for rehoming them and recuperating them. I'll be in Huntington tomorrow. Pm sent

 

[Rakie]

I'm down for rehoming them and recuperating them. I'll be in Huntington tomorrow. Pm sent

Cool deal, hope to see you later

 

[abstractxx02195]

What's going on with this brand? I wonder if it has anything to do with 2 clowns , 1 yellow tang, dying . I feed them these too and my parameters were normal. Can't be a parasite cuz my hawkfish and other inhabitants are still here


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[Emirates]

I just bought the reef cavier yesterday lol. After reading this thread sounds like I burnt some money