Thanks everyone for the warm regards and compliments. ieGlenn, I agree with you and would like very much to have an informal get-together up here. Once my schedule clears up from this crazy summer, i would be willing to host an afternoon or evening at my home if there is interest. On your other point, I did know Doug, he was a great man, very giving and kind. He had taught me quite a bit and was my go to guy for questions with everything reef related. He will be missed tremendously.