I don’t think most

[Emac909]

I don’t think most hobbies really know how to use there vortechs.

If your running your vortechs at anything less then 50% then you over paid for a non controllable wide flow tunze that doesn’t have a wire in the tank.

The best feature of a vortech other then not having a wire in tank is the controllability of the pump. A vortech can’t be directed other then 90 degrees off a surface. So all it’s controllability is in its ability in to ramp up and down. If your not letting the pump ramp up and down then basically it’s a constant flow wide stream.
I always ran my vortechs in between 70-90%. So that I would get the full ability of the pumps controller

 

[Smite]

I'm torn on that. I do like all the different random flow patterns that the vortechs offer and I run mine as high as possible. I've owned them for around 6 years now and for the majority of that time ran reefcrest and random pulse modes. Agreed the higher you run them the more you get out of those modes. I'm 80% max intensity on my 75g. It's probably do to my peninsula layout but for the last 4-5 months I've just ran anti-sync on a long 2 minute pulse between the two pumps. Blows one way for 2 minutes then alternates. I found it takes that long of a flow duration to really get movement at the end of the 4' tank. The motion is pretty natural and awesome. I like the motion so much I'll be going Tunze on my next tank and trying to mimic the flow pattern with those. I will miss the ease of initial set up with the vortechs though.

 

[drexel]

If Tunze made a Stream 2 or 1.5, then I would have one in my shallow 90. Those pumps are awesome, but a little too big for a 16" tall tank with sand. The one thing I thought Ecotech should've done is make different cages for the vortechs with different flow patterns, either wide or narrow (original), but also one for anemones, especially for the price you pay for one. But with the era of 3D printers, we have those options now.

 

[Emac909]

I'm torn on that. I do like all the different random flow patterns that the vortechs offer and I run mine as high as possible. I've owned them for around 6 years now and for the majority of that time ran reefcrest and random pulse modes. Agreed the higher you run them the more you get out of those modes. I'm 80% max intensity on my 75g. It's probably do to my peninsula layout but for the last 4-5 months I've just ran anti-sync on a long 2 minute pulse between the two pumps. Blows one way for 2 minutes then alternates. I found it takes that long of a flow duration to really get movement at the end of the 4' tank. The motion is pretty natural and awesome. I like the motion so much I'll be going Tunze on my next tank and trying to mimic the flow pattern with those. I will miss the ease of initial set up with the vortechs though.

That’s why I went with gyres. The 4k’s on the back wall are facing each other.

For most part of the day there on alternating gyre mode. Every 3 min the directions changes and at night every 5 min the directions changes. Then a few times during the day they go into ocean swell mode and the pumps battle it out along the back wall. This creates waves that crash into each other and pushes current forward. When it’s on OS mode the pumps flow change sporadically. Both pumps could be at 90% and the flow meets in the mid then the next min one pump is at 30% and the other is at 90%. Then the flow meets closer to the pump that is at 30% and pushing water forward at that side of the tank. Then the next min the pumps will be reversed and the flow is now at the other side of the tank.

 

[joseserrano]

Gyres get dirty and. Loose power fairly quickly. They need. To be maintained every 1-2 months.

 

[Emac909]

Gyres get dirty and. Loose power fairly quickly. They need. To be maintained every 1-2 months.

I agree to disagree. The gyres that’s where in the 150g are now on the 75g frag tank. I’ve yet to clean them.
I was a beta tester for maxspect for them before the gyres were called gyres. They originally were going to be called riptides. But there was a US patent for a pump called riptide already.
I had a video on YouTube years ago that I had a xf150 going head to head against 2 mp60s and that one gyre blow the mp60s out of the water. I even had the mp60 near the top of the water to show that the pumps where at equal water height. I ended up selling the mp60’s and going 2 xf150 on my 300 gallon peninsula. Never looked back.
The 4k’s that are in my lee-mar have been running for close to 2 months and I can’t see a difference in when I put them in fresh and clean.

 

[Smite]

Looks like you run a pretty clean tank. I love the flow of gyres. I was on the preorder list for the xf150 and ran it until i broke down my 180g. It never had an issue, but I did loose a very noticeable amount of output after a few weeks. I clean them and be like DAAAMN. I did like that they came with 2 sets of paddles, cages and bushings. Made cleaning pretty easy but I had to do it alot.

 

[Emac909]

Looks like you run a pretty clean tank. I love the flow of gyres. I was on the preorder list for the xf150 and ran it until i broke down my 180g. It never had an issue, but I did loose a very noticeable amount of output after a few weeks. I clean them and be like DAAAMN. I did like that they came with 2 sets of paddles, cages and bushings. Made cleaning pretty easy but I had to do it alot.

Yea that’s one way to utilize the extra paddles and cages. But there real purpose was to be able to utilize the reverse feature of the pump. So one pump could do two different directions flows. So the pump came originally with a A&B paddles on the pump and an extra A & B. So say you took the B side off and replaced it with a A. Now the pump had two A paddles and cages. You could place that gyre in the middle of your tank vertically. When the pump span in forward flow would come out of the top A side and you could point the flow towards the left and get a counter clockwise current. Then in the control you could change the directions off the rotation in a desired time. So let’s just say in 2 min you wanted the follow to change. Then you could have the pump spin in reverse for 2 min. Now the flow would be coming from the bottom A and pushing water to the right. Now you will have a clockwise current until the pump changed directions again.
So that one pump could give you two different type of gyre flows.

But sadly just like corporate America let’s charge more for less and they stopped giving the extra paddles. I did buy replacement for my 4k’s and 2ks off coralvue website

 

[joseserrano]

The flow is very distinctive and great, but they are maintenance intensive. Countless threads confirming this

 

[Emac909]

The flow is very distinctive and great, but they are maintenance intensive. Countless threads confirming this

Lol maybe I’m the unicorn. I’ve never had issues with them

I do say I’m just a dumbass but am I! Am I!

But never the less this isn’t a thread of vortech v gyre.

It’s a thread stating that most people are Idiots and don’t run their vortechs ideally.

Not always the case is bigger is better with a vortechs. Because bigger may mean you need to run them at a lower speed which therefore takes away the controllability of the pump.

 

[joseserrano]

The flow is very distinctive and great, but they are maintenance intensive. Countless threads confirming this. I also have used ice cap and gyres, both required much more maintenance than other pumps

 

[joseserrano]

Lol maybe I’m the unicorn. I’ve never had issues with them

I do say I’m just a dumbass but am I! Am I!

But never the less this isn’t a thread of vortech v gyre.

It’s a thread stating that most people are Idiots and don’t run their vortechs ideally.

Not always the case is bigger is better with a vortechs. Because bigger may mean you need to run them at a lower speed which therefore takes away the controllability of the pump.

Didn’t mean to make it that, but water movement can be a challenge thing to master

 

[Smite]

I’ve done it before. My first mp10 was on a 25g shallow cube with sand. Couldn’t hardly run it at 30% and I believe low is about 20% so not much of a change of reefcrest. Lesson learned, get a bigger tank haha

 

[Emac909]

I’ve done it before. My first mp10 was on a 25g shallow cube with sand. Couldn’t hardly run it at 30% and I believe low is about 20% so not much of a change of reefcrest. Lesson learned, get a bigger tank haha

Lol up grade yeaaa

 

[drexel]

I have two 330’s and I bought an extra set of cages and impellers, which makes cleaning them a breeze. Simply pull them out, flip out the dirty parts, put them back in, done. Soak the dirty parts in citric acid, have a beer. Two sets of cages/impellers were about the same price as one MP40 wetside. I do this once a month and at the same time, I pull the MP’s out and give them a good scrubbing. I use the limpet guards, so no more swapping out wetsides. I have a heavy in, heavy out tank, so no matter what pumps I use, I need to keep them clean. The easiest pumps that I’ve ever had to clean are my Tunze 6040’s, talk about awesome design and function.


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[sharkbait]

That’s why I went with gyres. The 4k’s on the back wall are facing each other.

For most part of the day there on alternating gyre mode. Every 3 min the directions changes and at night every 5 min the directions changes. Then a few times during the day they go into ocean swell mode and the pumps battle it out along the back wall. This creates waves that crash into each other and pushes current forward. When it’s on OS mode the pumps flow change sporadically. Both pumps could be at 90% and the flow meets in the mid then the next min one pump is at 30% and the other is at 90%. Then the flow meets closer to the pump that is at 30% and pushing water forward at that side of the tank. Then the next min the pumps will be reversed and the flow is now at the other side of the tank.

Off topic colors on your corals look great

 

[Emac909]

Off topic colors on your corals look great

Bro you totally derailed this thread








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