Modified my WP40 to be controlled by my Apex

jbaeza83

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So I had some free time today and decided to finally modify my WP40 so that I can control it with my Apex.

I went to radio shack and bought some DC power connectors so that I would use the factory power supply that came with the pumps.

To modify it I had to cut the cord on the pump but it was no biggie.

I still need to get my programming done for the pumps but that is the easy part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP1Hhbd45BA
 
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Its a still messy but I will clean up the wiring once I get a longer Cat5 cable. I just did it right now to where I could test it and see if it was working.
 

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Added the video to my first post.


Cant wait to see more! So this cuts out the need to use the factory controller altogether?
Yeah with this mod you don't need the factory controller at all. All you need is the power supply and the pump.
 

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Pump is in the tank and working great. To program it you have to make profiles for them. At first I thought I could use the the vortech profiles that are already programmed but they don't wont work so I had to setup different profile for different modes. Not a big deal though.

Hopefully tonight I will modify my second pump and I will post pics.
 

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im using this program
http://forum.neptunesystems.com/sho...Tunze-settings-making-great-waves-in-my-tank&


I shared this over a year ago at RC but I figured it would be well suited here. As such I thought I would make a contribution and post thisfor those who are setting up variable speed pumps. This is a cut and paste of several posts from my programming which I consolidated for simplicity. It’s fairly complex and most of my thinking is explained below.
My original RC thread can be seenhere where there is plenty of Q&A..
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994312

I have a pair of 6205's. Initially Ifired them up with the Tunze 7096 controller to get a feel for what pattern worked best for my tank in order to get a wave motion. Once I figured that out and found the 7096 to not be flexible enough, I ditched it.

My tank is 4' wide x 8' long and 2’ tall for a total of 480G plus the sump. Currently I have 2 6205's at one end of the tank (plus a couple Koralia's) and will likely add a couple more Tunze pumps in the future.

My idea was to have a decent wave current during the light on period. Lights start to come on at 11AM and turn off at 7:30PM I was able to get a pretty decent pulse that reaches the far end of the tank and makes all my corals dance so I created a profile of Wave1.

Prior to light and light off on I wanted to slow things down in prep for night mode so I created a profile called DuskDawn. Its similar to Wave1 but lesspower at a max of 70%.

I wanted to create an intermittent current that changed things up over the course of the day. I created a flush cycle on a timer since which was the easiest way to do it. I created Flush1 and Flush2. Flush1 is used by 1 of theTunze pumps and Flush2 is used by the other. This allows for the pumps flow to alternate back and forth during the flush cycle. I probably could have used Synchronize Disable to do the same thing using one profile instead of 2. The flush cycle turns on via a timer which is covered below.

On to my programming:

Variable Speed Pump 1 and 2

Stream Rt (This is my Tunze pump on the right side of tank. VS1)

Set Wave1
If Time 10:00 to 10:59 Then duskdawn
If Time 11:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1
If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn
If Outlet Timer = ON Then Flush1
If Time 20:01 to 09:59 Then Night
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

Stream Lt (This is my Tunze pump on the left side of tank. VS2)

Set Wave1
If Time 10:00 to 10:59 Then duskdawn
If Time 11:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1
If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn
If Outlet Timer = ON Then Flush2
If Time 20:01 to 09:59 Then Night
If FeedA 000 Then OFF


Pump Profiles:
Wave1 (This is my main daylight wave pattern)

Synchronize Enabled
Divide by 10 Enabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 0
On time (Seconds) 7
Off time (Seconds) 4
Minimum intensity 0
Maximum intensity 100

Wave2 (Similar pattern to the above but Sync is disabled which creates abit more chaos)

Synchronize Disabled
Divide by 10 Enabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 0
On time (Seconds) 7
Off time (Seconds) 4
Minimum intensity 0
Maximum intensity 100

Lt_Flush (This is for the left side 6205 flush)

Synchronize Disabled
Divide by 10 Disabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 0
On time (Seconds) 30
Off time (Seconds) 30
Minimum intensity 0
Maximum intensity 90


Rt_Flush (Rt 6205 alternate interval of LT_Flush alternates one on while the other is off)

Synchronize Disabled
Divide by 10 Disabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 30
On time (Seconds) 30
Off time (Seconds) 30
Minimum intensity 0
Maximum intensity 90

DuskDawn (This is a lower flow wave pattern used intermittently during the light hours as well as before and after lights go out)

Synchronize Enabled
Divide by 10 Enabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 0
On time (Seconds) 7
Off time (Seconds) 4
Minimum intensity 0
Maximum intensity 30

Night (Sets a constant 30% flow during light off hours)

Synchronize Disabled
Divide by 10 Disabled
Initial off time (Seconds) 0
On time (Seconds) 10
Off time (Seconds) 15
Minimum intensity 30
Maximum intensity 30


Virtual Outlets:

I am up to 3 timers. My use for the timers is to create short random periods of different flow during daylight hours.

Timer1 (turns on every 120 minutes for 10 minutes. If timer 2 is on at that time, it should remain off)

OSC 120:00/010:00/000:00 Then ON
If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then OFF
If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

Timer2 (turns on every 45 minutes for 15 minutes except if timer 3 is on)
OSC 045:00/015:00/000:00 Then ON
If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then OFF
If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

Timer3 (turn on every 15 minutes for 5 minutes except if timer 1 is on)
OSC 015:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON
If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then OFF
If Time 19:30 to 11:30 Then OFF
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

My Variable speed pumps and their programming:

StreamLt
Set Wave1
If Time 10:30 to 11:59 Then duskdawn
If Time 12:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1
If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn
If Time 20:01 to 10:29 Then Night
If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Lt_Flush
If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then duskdawn
If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2
If FeedA 000 Then OFF


StreamRt

Set Wave1
If Time 10:30 to 11:59 Then duskdawn
If Time 12:00 to 19:00 Then Wave1
If Time 19:01 to 20:00 Then duskdawn
If Time 20:01 to 10:29 Then Night
If Outlet Timer1 = ON Then Rt_Flush
If Outlet Timer2 = ON Then duskdawn
If Outlet Timer3 = ON Then Wave2
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

With it programmed the way it currently is, from 10:30 to 11:59AM, it has duskdawn flow.
From 12:00PM to 7PM, it should has Wave1 flow but every 45 minutes it will run in duskdawn flow mode for 15 minutes and every 120 minutes it should go into flush mode for 10 minutes.
From 7PM to 8PM its back to dawndusk flow mode and from 8PM to 10:30AM its innight flow mode.
 
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Will this control the GPH too or do you still need the variable power station for it? Just bought two and want to try this.

Juan- Can you take video of you actually doing the wiring? Please. I'm pretty handy but don't want to screw this up.
 
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Awesome job guys, I asked the question on the group buy (wp25 & wp40) but I had no idea this could be done. Great jog.

:thank_you2: :the20man:




Is this only for the apex or rkl or any aqua controller?
 

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Will this control the GPH too or do you still need the variable power station for it? Just bought two and want to try this.

Juan- Can you take video of you actually doing the wiring? Please. I'm pretty handy but don't want to screw this up.
No need for the variable power supply. I am using the stock 24v supply. I dont have video of me doing the wiring but give me a call and ill help you out. Pm me for number
 
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Awesome job guys, I asked the question on the group buy (wp25 & wp40) but I had no idea this could be done. Great jog.

:thank_you2: :the20man:




Is this only for the apex or rkl or any aqua controller?
For the apex you will need a vdm.
I know you can do it on the rkl but I dont own one and dont know what module you will need.

Same for the aqua controller
 
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Here is my apex unit. Can you let me know what I would need to get the wps working on it. Sent pm also


Sent from Da Bolt!
 

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