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In this hobby we don't share our failures enough. Mostly out of being arrogant and supposedly prideful. But those idiots are never gonna get it that sharing failures is the way your "reef bros" don't follow you into the room with a firing squad up in arms.

Well I'm in a giving mood. Here's my latest failure.

There's a Millie in there that I tried to save by fragging, nope....died.

Most of those guys (corals) have been in my system for over 16 months. I have about 3 more colonies that I've had for 2 years that look like they want to join the "white" party.

What caused it? User error, most likely. But looking closely at the way these guys died it points straight to my new love to dosing solid carbon sources, ya pellets. I talked to the guy at Warner and he said to start with 500ml for my level of water and corals. Yikes. Out a good 800$-1100.

On to more fun facts.

Stn starts in the middle of branches then goes to the base, delightful.

So from a RC thread, bio pellets. The verdict is I have managed to strip the corals food and they didn't like it. What a bunch of wimps.

Alk is a touch higher because I didn't reduce it once I pulled colonies out. Normally 8.5-8.8 now 9.3-9.5 I have it at 9.0. Months ago I had a larger swing and nothing was the wiser. Let me say I have never had anything like this happen to coral. Much less owned 1-2 year corals and then the "ghost LE" coral sale thread.

I have a turaki that I've had for over two years that the base is slowly going to the crapper. Lps not showing any negative signs. Softy same as usual. Large massive clam not all that happy but copping.

That is all Felz Navidad, Happy Kwanza and Chanukah!

Going on vacation and I hope they all do the same. Fowlr tank here we go.

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that sucks man! i can hear your frustration in your post..
i said it before and i say it again- F those pellots...to many great tanks/corals suffered from the arctic rush..

about 3 months ago i was having issues with chalices
i lost colonies of BGM, Tyree red, pink boobies...:hang3:
 

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I definitely understand your frustration and your loss. If you need any help with running the pellets I can help. I have been running them for a long time and I have had a few issues with bleeching, but was able to work them out. Sorry again for your losses.
 
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If this was a year ago I would be all ape pooh. I'm over it. I knew this was a possibility, it happened to my friends tank about a year ago. Everything nice one day, pellets clumped and he loses a lot of nice growth that had been near perfect.

I don't feel all that bad because I had a lot of corals get ugly when I switched them from the 90 gallon to this tank. But I certainly did not want them to die. I would of rather have donated them to the new trend of people asking for freebies. Jk pan handlers!
 
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Thanks Cliff. I think I should have gone smaller more like 200ml. Even a freaking slimer large colony was starting to die on me, can you even kill a slimer? Never heard of such a thing. I cut it and crazy glued the base and it seemed to have worked.
 

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da m bro, sorry to hear and see your casualties. hope you are able to rebuild that beauty of a reef you had going.
 
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I hear you my office sps tank just got wiped out in a matter of a few weeks. I grew everything in the tank from 1 inch frags over 2 years ago. Good thing I gave away frags to some buddies over the years and now they are giving me frags from my old colonies to start over again. Oh what happened to me... a faulty inline tds meter on my RO unit had me thinking everything was fine. Well after testing and not being able to locate where all of the phosphates were coming from despite multiple water changes. It was my water!! The more water I made the worst it got. Another lesson learned. BOO

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Sorry about ur losses bro, its hard throwing all that cash down the drain. Good news is that we've all killed and will continue to kill coral,fish etc etc its the nature of the beast in this hobby and anyone who says differnt is full of sh-t. Now as far as pellets go i run them and always will, but i just cant stress enough that pellets are not set and forget and truly have the ability to strip trates with the quickness hense the starving of corals. Alk also must be kept 7-8 no higher or ull get tip burn and the list goes on and on. Same rules for every bact driven system only dif with pellets is that you dont have to dose every day but again all the same rules apply. Ive been a pellet user since before they hit main stream so i def have time of use with these under my belt. If anyone needs pellet advice i dont mind helping out at all as im sure some of my other pellet buddies wouldnt mine helping out either if u run into issues
 
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I'm sorry you lost. You scared me now I stopped running Biopellet and go back to vinegar.
Bro, stop tripping your tank is nearly perfect. Don't change anything.

@turbo, ya my alk has been high 8's and lower 9's. Probably also played a roll in this issue.

1) Knowing dang well that I needed to stay in 7-8 range. User error.

2) Also laziness on not fine tuning alk before and after I added the BP.

3) inform myself on people who also failed before this happened and what they did wrong.

I am leaving them in. I am super stubborn and don't mind losing the rest at this point. I am thinking I might send um to Oscar for safe keeping. If not they can do what they have to do.


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Gutted for you. It's quite disheartening to lose any livestock.

And at the same time thank you. I think one of the reasons losses are disheartening is because we don't share our failures more often, like you mentioned. When I read your post it helps me keep in check the guilt/embarrassment/desolation I feel for the losses in my tank. And this also provides a great opportunity to learn from someone else's experience, not to mention the offers from folks for advice. Thanks for sharing.

And hopefully your reef karma for sharing your frags before will repay you in kind.
 
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No problema! In retrospect I know it was me. But pointing at "things done incorrectly."

It was high alk and whatever the pellets pulled or realeased that annihilated my old corals. I think a lot of what is understood is that we need to be conscience that if we have lil nutrients this can basically leave you with very little to feed your dependent live stock.

Some things like Lps an softies had 0 effects to all of this. Wild colonies mostly all died, mostly Indonesian and Fiji based collected species. The Australian pieces did fine. Not happy, but not dead.

No more coral for me for a good while. I am gonna be a good boy in 2012 and not kill senselessly.


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So update. All of the corals that had stn somewhere, I hacked them up from the white spot. Then crazy glued and mounted them again. This proves to stop the progression of tissue recession.

Thing I have done since the tank melt. I lowered my alk to 7.4. I did a large water change and changed the gfo and carbon. Looks like the worst is over.

Had a little red cyano pop up on a rock.


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It was probaly the alk swing you had a while back not youre pellets.
It takes time for the aftermath after a alk swing somewhere around 8weeks.
Wild colonies dont like any fluctuation alk temp etc
 
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Sorry to hear. I almost gave up after my tank wipeout last week. Lost 3/4 of my fish I had for over 3 years including a trio of Yellow Tangs and a trio of Blue tangs that never fought
 

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