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From the Netherlands. People seem to love to hate this baby but bring it on I guess. My new cube shall embrace it with open arms.







And yes that diffuser panel is made of glass. 100% solid aluminum and glass only on this thing.
 
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I spoke to someone about them at RAP that is running them. Sounds like a really nice light with awesome spread.

I wish they would have made it a little sleeker but it is what it is.

Keep us posted Id really like to know how it does for you.
 
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Those are nice! You have 220v at your house ?

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Yeah I ran a dedicated 220V line just to power it. The only reason I got to procure one was because of the lead engineer of the light at Philips. I had been corresponding with him for weeks and he facilitated the process through a dealer in Holland.
 
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I spoke to someone about them at RAP that is running them. Sounds like a really nice light with awesome spread.

I wish they would have made it a little sleeker but it is what it is.

Keep us posted Id really like to know how it does for you.
Yeah there is a reason though they went with the current housing and it's because they already mass produce it by the thousands. It is the Gentlespace Gen 2. Instead of cutting costs on the diodes which consists of 100% Luxeon including Luxeon UV which is the most expensive violet diode on the market by a mile. Having 104 Luxeon diodes for cheaper than a Radion G4 Pro is quite a feat imo. Although the light is made 100% in house so there's no way anyone else could come out with something comparable at the same price.

I must say though this thing makes other leds look like toys. It is completely waterproof and while it's not the prettiest it is built to last. Philips rates it 25000 hours at 100% diode output vs 25000 hours at 80% output like everyone else.

What did the guy at RAP say? How is he liking it?
 
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Congrats. Hope you do an in depth review on it after using it. This is actually the one LED I'm hoping will do well.
 
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Yeah I ran a dedicated 220V line just to power it. The only reason I got to procure one was because of the lead engineer of the light at Philips. I had been corresponding with him for weeks and he facilitated the process through a dealer in Holland.
It's good to have someone on the inside to pull some strings. I think it looks cool. Definitely "purpose built". Not as sleek as some but it's all about how it does what it does not about how it looks while doing it. Don't see a controller though. Is it just on & off?
 
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Yeah there is a reason though they went with the current housing and it's because they already mass produce it by the thousands. It is the Gentlespace Gen 2. Instead of cutting costs on the diodes which consists of 100% Luxeon including Luxeon UV which is the most expensive violet diode on the market by a mile. Having 104 Luxeon diodes for cheaper than a Radion G4 Pro is quite a feat imo. Although the light is made 100% in house so there's no way anyone else could come out with something comparable at the same price.

I must say though this thing makes other leds look like toys. It is completely waterproof and while it's not the prettiest it is built to last. Philips rates it 25000 hours at 100% diode output vs 25000 hours at 80% output like everyone else.

What did the guy at RAP say? How is he liking it?
Awesome spread and color but it obviously hasnt had them very long. Good info thanks... what did that set you back?... nvm 220v? They going to release it in the US soon?
 
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It's good to have someone on the inside to pull some strings. I think it looks cool. Definitely "purpose built". Not as sleek as some but it's all about how it does what it does not about how it looks while doing it. Don't see a controller though. Is it just on & off?
Awesome spread and color but it obviously hasnt had them very long. Good info thanks... what did that set you back?... nvm 220v? They going to release it in the US soon?
They are currently figuring out the logistics for a US release. If it comes out in the US don't expect the housing to change as they want to keep the industrial quality.

As for controller yes there is one. Here is a picture.



So the controller can be used through the PC or through an Apex or anything that has a 0-10V connection. Each controller box can control 4 light units. Power is supplied by USB to 5V wall wart so the controller is actually ready to go for US. I will be using the Apex. You basically just get a cat5 cable and connect the right leads to the Coralcare controller and you are ready to go. If the controller detects a 0-10V signal it goes into that mode automatically so no need to connect to computer first. It is only 2 channels white and blue which I like. I hate all these new lights with a zillion channels.

Channel 1 - Luxeon T Royal Blue, Luxeon UV 420nm violet
Channel 2 - Luxeon TX 6500K White, Luxeon Rebel Cyan, Luxeon Rebel PC Amber

Unit is 220V only as you can only get it in EU. I paid $800 shipped to my door from Holland for both light and controller. The controller is actually a separate purchase but it was cheap at ~$60.

As of right now the US target price is ~$749. It won't be the prettiest thing out there but the spread will be unmatched by anything close to price range.
 
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What is a conservative spread foot print?

Also I might have missed it but what are the dimensions of the fixture?

I think I would need like 6. Ouch
 
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What is a conservative spread foot print?

Also I might have missed it but what are the dimensions of the fixture?

I think I would need like 6. Ouch
Unit measures 18x14. As for coverage footprint it basically has an identical PAR map to a 2ft. 8-10 bulb ATI Sunpower. So if you were doing a mixed tank it can cover 36x30. SPS more like 30x30. So basically when figuring out how many you need I think a good measure would be to just see how many feet of ATI Sunpower you would need and then divide by 2 and you got your units. So like 48x30x18 which is super popular you would need 2 units but you have extreme coverage to have SPS everywhere like you would with the sunpower.

Basically the Philips engineer said that they designed the fixture to go toe to toe with the ATI Sunpower. The guy is a reefer and avid T5 guy so that's all they cared to compete with. BRS did a very extensive review of the light with lots of interesting measurements. The main one I found interesting is the massive PAR fluctuations created by puck LEDs when you take into account water movement which T5 does not suffer from and neither does this unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3buToJrfX4&t

The only thing that BRS measured incorrectly was the power consumption as they used a step up transformer so when they connected the killawatt they took the reading from the transformer to the wall so they didn't take into account conversion losses that occurs when converting 110 to 220.

All in all though do not expect to save electricity over a Sunpower. I have always said that lighting a reef properly with LEDs compared to a MH or T5 you are not really saving any electricity if you want to match the same spread but instead you are saving on bulbs and heat generated.
 
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Wow! I think the light looks real cool bc it has that industrial look. which I'm sure is also industrial strength.
Haha yeah. It is definitely industrial strength. The light weighs 20lbs. Also in the manual it states that if you want to clean it just take a wet rag and wipe it. The whole thing is sealed. Underneath the glass splash guard there is a gasket that creates a watertight seal so the diodes won't get wet if you drop it in the tank.
 
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What sort of plug/outlet interface did you get? I don't recognize that style of 220 at all (derr, Nederlands, I get it, but still). Did you get an adapter and go to 3 prong with it? I've never seen an adapter for that.
 
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What sort of plug/outlet interface did you get? I don't recognize that style of 220 at all (derr, Nederlands, I get it, but still). Did you get an adapter and go to 3 prong with it? I've never seen an adapter for that.
The light comes with a UK 3 prong adapter plug as well. I ran a 220v with nema 5-20 socket and then I got a 5-20 to UK adapter.
 

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I hope to see this light perform well.

my opinion:

cons-
a 22lb fixture is way too heavy.
$1000 and you cannot fully control the spectrum. sounds like an overpriced kessil.
It looks horrible in my opinion. Big, bulky and looks like it would turn on in someones backyard when a sensor goes off.
Why is there a wire on each end? they couldn't come out on the same sides so that you can wrap the wires them together?
I would love to see how people are hanging these over their tank, Radions are sleek, shiny, black for minimal distraction.
waterproof? i have never gotten my fixture wet so thats like saying my toaster is waterproof just because it sits next to my sink.

pros-
Looks built to last. Although reefers are always looking to get the next best thing.
Easy to clean, ok i buy that.
looks like a larger spread of lighting than any non-t5 fixture.

I won't comment on power consumption because its not a US item yet. When it is released it better not be 220.
 
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Technically, 220 runs wattage more efficiently, as lower amperage loads require less heat while encountering less resistance.

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