TDS too high?

Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#1
My TDS meter is showing 005 coming out. Is that too high? My concern is that I swapped out all the filters not too long ago and I know I haven't made that much water to have exhausted the filters. I did swap out the RO membrane as well. Anything I can check? Or is that as good as its gonna get???
 
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
6,692
Likes
25
Points
48
Location
Long Beach
#4
Water pressure is around 65 psi. I get 016 coming in and 005 coming out.
Def something wrong. Is it 16 coming out of your hose or out of the membrane before the DI?

Check your cartridges especially the DI to make sure it's in there sealed right.
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#6
Def something wrong. Is it 16 coming out of your hose or out of the membrane before the DI?

Check your cartridges especially the DI to make sure it's in there sealed right.
It's 16 coming out of membrane before DI. I'll double check, thanks.
 

Six2seven

Premium Member
Supporter
Joined
Dec 27, 2011
Messages
8,473
Likes
24
Points
38
Location
San Pedro, CA
#8
The API works but API is not as accurate. Hanna checkers are low range testers and will give you a more accurate reading. Good investment but test with API since that's what you have. Should be fine
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#11
How is the resin in the DI chamber?
Water could be channeling there and some TDS could be slipping through.
Do you have a single DI chamber?
I'll double check, and yes it's it's a single stage DI. Thanks for the input.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#12
I double checked everything, took cartridges off then back on. I do believe everything was installed properly, but my TDS coming out are still too high. 006 as of today. Any suggestions?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#13
Reading on line I found this post.

"You should also have flushed the new filters to waste before putting them through the membrane the flushed the membrane to waste before putting it to the DI. Prefilters and carbon block need a rinse. Membranes need a bigger rinse and if you do not you pass a lot of unnecessary jumk to the DI resin wearing it out prematurely."

How true is that???
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
 
Joined
Aug 22, 2013
Messages
147
Likes
0
Points
0
Location
Riverside, CA
#14
Reading on line I found this post.

"You should also have flushed the new filters to waste before putting them through the membrane the flushed the membrane to waste before putting it to the DI. Prefilters and carbon block need a rinse. Membranes need a bigger rinse and if you do not you pass a lot of unnecessary jumk to the DI resin wearing it out prematurely."

How true is that???
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
True.
 

bvysochin

2
Supporter
2020 POTM
Joined
Nov 2, 2009
Messages
1,210
Likes
81
Points
48
Location
Oak View, CA 93022- about 15 min from Ventura
#16
Depending on what RO membrane you installed, you may be right on track. If you installed a high gpd membrane with say.. only a 90% rejection rate, a TDS of 16 post membrane isn't that unrealistic. Even a 75gpd filmtec, which advertises a high 98% rejection rate (but can be as low as 96%), would put you right at the numbers you're seeing. Figure about 400 TDS coming in (average for me) x 96% rejection rate (minimum acceptable rate for a 75gpd filmtec).. leaves you about 16 TDS post membrane. That high of TDS could wear out your DI quickly.. twice as fast as if your tds was only 8 post membrane. Maybe you just need some new DI resin? Did you change it out as well? Was it fresh? Was it from a reputable vendor?
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#17
Depending on what RO membrane you installed, you may be right on track. If you installed a high gpd membrane with say.. only a 90% rejection rate, a TDS of 16 post membrane isn't that unrealistic. Even a 75gpd filmtec, which advertises a high 98% rejection rate (but can be as low as 96%), would put you right at the numbers you're seeing. Figure about 400 TDS coming in (average for me) x 96% rejection rate (minimum acceptable rate for a 75gpd filmtec).. leaves you about 16 TDS post membrane. That high of TDS could wear out your DI quickly.. twice as fast as if your tds was only 8 post membrane. Maybe you just need some new DI resin? Did you change it out as well? Was it fresh? Was it from a reputable vendor?
Thanks Crystal, my R/O membrane is a captive purity 100gpd. I replaced all four stages, everything was bought from reputable vendor.
 

bvysochin

2
Supporter
2020 POTM
Joined
Nov 2, 2009
Messages
1,210
Likes
81
Points
48
Location
Oak View, CA 93022- about 15 min from Ventura
#18
If you haven't made much water through the new filters, the DI shouldn't have exhausted that quickly.. Maybe it wasn't packed tightly enough? Maybe the RO membrane hasn't quite broken in yet.. the TDS may still go down, as you run more water through it.

Keep in mind, in my example scenario in the last post, I was figuring in a 400 TDS coming in.. I know sometimes when I check my incoming TDS after a day or two of rain, the incoming TDS is over 700! That would wear out your DI even quicker.. This is the reason it is very important to buy the RO membrane with the highest rejection rate you could possibly find.. It saves money in the long term on the costs of replacing DI resin..

The DI cartridge you installed, was it refillable? If so, you can always order $10 worth of new resin from BRS or any of the other vendors, and get your TDS back down to 0, if it doesn't go down on its own.
 
Joined
May 4, 2011
Messages
1,119
Likes
8
Points
38
Location
Downey
#19
If you haven't made much water through the new filters, the DI shouldn't have exhausted that quickly.. Maybe it wasn't packed tightly enough? Maybe the RO membrane hasn't quite broken in yet.. the TDS may still go down, as you run more water through it.

Keep in mind, in my example scenario in the last post, I was figuring in a 400 TDS coming in.. I know sometimes when I check my incoming TDS after a day or two of rain, the incoming TDS is over 700! That would wear out your DI even quicker.. This is the reason it is very important to buy the RO membrane with the highest rejection rate you could possibly find.. It saves money in the long term on the costs of replacing DI resin..

The DI cartridge you installed, was it refillable? If so, you can always order $10 worth of new resin from BRS or any of the other vendors, and get your TDS back down to 0, if it doesn't go down on its own.
No it's not refillable, I will order a new DI cartridge and see what happens. What concerns me is if shortly after putting in a new DI cartridge my TDS start rising again, then I'll be back to square one.
 
Top