Did I get the AIDS??

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So, the last couple days I noticed one of my my pink millie not having its normal PE. This morning I woke up to RTN.

Water Parameters are:

pH: 8.2
Ammonia: 0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: undetectable
Phosphates: .003
Mag 1500
ALK: 10.5 dKH
Ca: 460

Only thing I have done to the tank in the last couple days was frag some stuff (not near the millie) and nothing else seems to be affected (yet).

Should I:

1. give it time and see if the whole piece gets ef'd?
2. chop off the affected branches?
3. Pull the whole thing out and chuck it?

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Surprisingly not broken but dang does it hurt today. So does the chin. Norco takes it away :D
 
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Chop it ASAP or u will def lose the whole piece. None of corals STN from aefw. They keep polyp extension and lose colors. I think ur fine

Is it a mariculture piece?


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I Would dip the **** out of it first. May have bugs, may I say! Then IF its clean You chop affected areas and re-glue it to a new plug. Dude pieces melt sometimes its part of hording Sps
 

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Chop it ASAP or u will def lose the whole piece. None of corals STN from aefw. They keep polyp extension and lose colors. I think ur fine

Is it a mariculture piece?


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Pulled the whole thing out, dipped it, only thing that came off was a few pods an a buttload of tissue. Chopped off the bad branches and put the good on the frag rack.

And yes, this was a maricultured piece. Why?
 

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Pulled the whole thing out, dipped it, only thing that came off was a few pods an a buttload of tissue. Chopped off the bad branches and put the good on the frag rack.

And yes, this was a maricultured piece. Why?
Because mariculture pieces will die randomly out of nowhere. Especially stuff from Indonesia area, the Aussie stuff is more resistant.
 

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Interesting... wonder why? Oh well... as long as it doesn't spread I don't mind losing a piece... (well I do, but not as much as if I lost several pieces)
 
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That's why I asked if it was mariculture. I've had numerous mari pieces just up and STN out of the blue. Usually they last a few weeks/months, then boom and they turn to poo.


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I have had similar experiences to everyone else Just something strange about maricultured pieces. Once you see RTN, no choice but cut it up quickly and take your chances with the remaining frags. I don't think dipping at this point is best, if your piece is infested , it is probable that your tank is as well, but I understand the nuclear approach of throwing everything you can try on this dying piece. That's why I would suggest not to necessarily dip because you have a very shaky, nebulous piece at this point. But it is a case by case call on your part.
 

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I also appreciate the draw of maricultured pieces. They are big and show so much potential. But after so many failures and disappointments, I think it is both cheaper and wiser, over the long haul to just buy aquacultured tank raised corals. To begin with you have a much clearer idea of what you are buying, it's color is much more likely to be stable and most important of all it is more likely to thrive because it has proven itself over time. Certainly there is no bullet proof coral because our tanks are what they are and that ain't the ocean
 

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It's strange, it was a LARGE mariculture piece. I left it on the "plug" (man made rock) for a month to make sure it liked the light/flow. Once I knew it was happy I cut it off the plug (which gave me two good sized colonies). These got affixed with putty and were doing great for three months. I guess the funny thing is, the larger colony (that is 10" from this one) is doing perfectly fine.

Oh well, RTN piece has been banished to the sump, rest has been fragged...

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I also appreciate the draw of maricultured pieces. They are big and show so much potential. But after so many failures and disappointments, I think it is both cheaper and wiser, over the long haul to just buy aquacultured tank raised corals. To begin with you have a much clearer idea of what you are buying, it's color is much more likely to be stable and most important of all it is more likely to thrive because it has proven itself over time. Certainly there is no bullet proof coral because our tanks are what they are and that ain't the ocean
Makes sense. So hard to find large aquacultured pieces though...
 
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Why do u think all my SPS are frags?....They're all tank raised. For awhile I was thinking my tank was Fooked up. I kept buying nice mari colony's, and they would color up nice in my tank. Then a few months later, STN would hit em. After having more and more mari pieces STN, I finally started buying tank raised only. And I have yet to lose a tank raised frag due to random RTN/STN. I have noticed that if u frag them early, the frags will usually do ok. But if u wait too long, sometimes the frag will keep STN/RTN anyways. If u can't tell, I hate mariculture pieces. Prolly lost close to $400 in mariculture colony's. :/


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Why do u think all my SPS are frags?....They're all tank raised. For awhile I was thinking my tank was Fooked up. I kept buying nice mari colony's, and they would color up nice in my tank. Then a few months later, STN would hit em. After having more and more mari pieces STN, I finally started buying tank raised only. And I have yet to lose a tank raised frag due to random RTN/STN. I have noticed that if u frag them early, the frags will usually do ok. But if u wait too long, sometimes the frag will keep STN/RTN anyways. If u can't tell, I hate mariculture pieces. Prolly lost close to $400 in mariculture colony's. :/


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Exactly. For $400 imagine all the great tank raised frags you could buy. Limited editions, everything! Can't say it enough, been there done that. Tried and true tank raised just does well. Well, better than Maricultured corals at least.
 
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what is a "tank raised coral"? a wild piece that survived the selection process of many reefers and has spread to many tanks and stores. follow that out 20 years of keeping previously impossible to keep coral and all TOTMs have generally the same pieces.

thats why I laugh at LE- if you are truthful to yourself about keeping coral (especially acropora) long term, you realize the only ones that last are the common ones. most of the new stuff dies right after the reefer posts a cool pic of it (no offense- weve all been there). thats not to say new staples dont come out all the time, but IMO they have been coming from big facilities and not from hobbiest. same is true with hard to keep fish IMO.
 
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