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Yeah I saw that after doing some research. I decided that I'm going use the 1.5" as the full siphon drain and 1" as backup. I know I'm chancing it with only 1" emergency but I want more flow.
If your gonna go this route make sure the emergency drain is submerged about 1" into the operating water level of the sump that way it can go full siphon if it needs to.
 

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If your gonna go this route make sure the emergency drain is submerged about 1" into the operating water level of the sump that way it can go full siphon if it needs to.
Can you explain how it would go full siphon if it's submerged? Will it go full siphon after all the air clears? Also, I planned on submerging both the 1.5" and 1" below the water line. Is that ok? Does it matter if it's submerged more than 1"?
 
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Submerge both the main and emergency in the sump 1" below the water line. If you gonmore than that the siphon may not start.
In the overflow box tou can run the main drain without a stand pipe as long as the sump can handle the full volume of the overflow + whatever drains from dt when pump is off. If not youll want a stand pipe a minimum of 6" below the max water level in the over flow.
For silent operation the emergency drain should be around 1/2" below the weir.
Adjust the gate valve on the main drain closed a little until the water level in the overflow is even with or just trickling into the emergency.
Setup like this it will run silent and if the main ever plugs the emergency can take on the excess. Also if main is plugged completly, the emergency has a chance to go full siphon as long as the sump end is submerged.

For more info...
http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-reef-tank-plumbing-method-basics/


It can seem confusing but it's very simple. The hardest part is cutting the standpipes to the right height. I would make thr pipes longer than needed and cut them shorter and test until it's working the way you want it.
HTH

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Submerge both the main and emergency in the sump 1" below the water line. If you gonmore than that the siphon may not start.
In the overflow box tou can run the main drain without a stand pipe as long as the sump can handle the full volume of the overflow + whatever drains from dt when pump is off. If not youll want a stand pipe a minimum of 6" below the max water level in the over flow.
For silent operation the emergency drain should be around 1/2" below the weir.
Adjust the gate valve on the main drain closed a little until the water level in the overflow is even with or just trickling into the emergency.
Setup like this it will run silent and if the main ever plugs the emergency can take on the excess. Also if main is plugged completly, the emergency has a chance to go full siphon as long as the sump end is submerged.

For more info...
http://gmacreef.com/herbie-overflow-reef-tank-plumbing-method-basics/


It can seem confusing but it's very simple. The hardest part is cutting the standpipes to the right height. I would make thr pipes longer than needed and cut them shorter and test until it's working the way you want it.
HTH

Jim
Got it! I won't chance running without the full siphon standpipe. My goal is to find the right balance of return flow where if the emergency went full siphon it can handle the amount of flow without overflowing the tank. I'll keep you posted on the results.
 
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Sounds good. From what ive seen 1" pvc under full siphon can handle over 1500gph. Mine is probably closer to 1800 - 1900 gph if not more as it is with no issues
 

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Sounds good. From what ive seen 1" pvc under full siphon can handle over 1500gph. Mine is probably closer to 1800 - 1900 gph if not more as it is with no issues
With my manifold inline teeing off for my fuge, chiller, and calcium reactor, I expect to be around 1800-2000 gph so I should be alright with a 1" emergency.
 

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EBC95E47-5CB0-4510-B6B6-C39A58427565_zpsdjjfawuw.jpg Update..I finally finished gluing all the PVC and I was able to leak test the system. The only leak was a loose 1.5" bulkhead!! Other than that I'm pleased with the results. The Fluval SP6 is as advertised. Quiet, efficient, and plenty of flow.
 

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After much debate and research I ended up ordering a Reef Octopus Elite 220. It was a toss up between the ATB 10.5 and the Elite 220, but I decided based on cost (black Friday sales) and customer service. I've heard great reviews about the regal and elite line from Reef Octopus so we'll see.
 

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Everything is coming along nicely. Hope the Elite 220 works out for you. Any reviews on them yet?
 

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Everything is coming along nicely. Hope the Elite 220 works out for you. Any reviews on them yet?
Not too many reviews on the elite 220, but the performance is supposed to be comparable to the regal line which has many positive reviews. In the end customer service played a big part in my decision and reef octopus customer service is supposed to be good. I was worried that if I went with ATB or Bubble King and I had an issue that required service, then I would be out of a skimmer for too long or replacement parts would cost too much.
 

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View attachment 39494 Update..I finally finished gluing all the PVC and I was able to leak test the system. The only leak was a loose 1.5" bulkhead!! Other than that I'm pleased with the results. The Fluval SP6 is as advertised. Quiet, efficient, and plenty of flow.
My stand is set up the same way. Do you plan on adding doors? If so, would you mind sharing? I'd love to see how you will be doing it so I can copy! your tank is coming along amazingly!!
 

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My stand is set up the same way. Do you plan on adding doors? If so, would you mind sharing? I'd love to see how you will be doing it so I can copy! your tank is coming along amazingly!!
I definitely plan on adding doors because I have to keep my son out of the sump area :) lol. My goal is to match the same style cabinets and color that we have around the house. I'll make sure to post pics of the frame and doors so you can copy :)
 

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Besides the skimmer I also picked up 3 buckets of tropic marin pro, Milwaukee digital refractometer, algae free tiger shark magnet cleaner, red sea marine care test kit, and a 300 watt Eheim heater. I love Black Friday!
 
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