For all you Biopellet doubters

[pgr11]

Those pellets don't work any better than other pellets. Buying them will not make your tank look any better than it looks with any other type of biopellet. Here is the same guy's tank using the original NP biopellets. No magic here, just a good reefer!
[video=youtube;V70KV_dZ9UE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V70KV_dZ9UE[/video]

I needed pellets anyway so I figure why not try them out. Experimenting around is helpful. If it work better then great. If not no big deal I was going to buy pellets anyway

 

[gcarroll]

All I'm saying is that they guy has been using them for 3 months. I can assure you the tank looked that good prior to using them and will look that good if he stops. When you say work better, what do you mean?

 

[solitude127]

All I'm saying is that they guy has been using them for 3 months. I can assure you the tank looked that good prior to using them and will look that good if he stops. When you say work better, what do you mean?

Maybe better in the sense that the pellets will help lower PO4 as well?

 

[pgr11]

Better at removing po4. I'm in no way expecting my tank to magically look like his. I need to be a much more motivated reefer for that to happen.

 

[Tangwich]

I agree that they may help lower po4 as well as helps feed sponges in your tank which are beneficial but I also think that sps growing is like gardening..some people just naturally have a green thumb and some don't (myself included) so whether you run bp or not, bp's aren't the magical potion needed to grow beautiful sps.

 

[Super Mickey]

Wow nice... I started using bp since 2 month ago but I cannot see the difference yet!!

 

[gcarroll]

Do you guys know why you can have a tank running biopellets and still have phosphate or nitrate issues?

 

[BeanMachine]

Do you guys know why you can have a tank running biopellets and still have phosphate or nitrate issues?

By not having an ATB skimmer of course LOL

 

[Six2seven]

All I'm saying is that they guy has been using them for 3 months. I can assure you the tank looked that good prior to using them and will look that good if he stops.

I completely agree, a master piece like that is not due to the pellets. Im sure he started pellets for a reason but that tank looked good already.

 

[gcarroll]

Do you guys know why you can have a tank running biopellets and still have phosphate or nitrate issues?

I really did not expect an answer to this question however, if you are running biopellets and cannot answer this questiion, you need to seriously question if you should even be running biopellets.

 

[Usingthejohn]

I really did not expect an answer to this question however, if you are running biopellets and cannot answer this questiion, you need to seriously question if you should even be running biopellets.

I'm not running either; is this a serious question? If so, I'd like to know the answer. Would it be because you aren't running enough?

 

[pgr11]

Do you guys know why you can have a tank running biopellets and still have phosphate or nitrate issues?

I don't have a nitrate issue nor a real phosphate either, but the pellets didn't really lower my phosphate like it did my nitrate. I always just chalked it up to pellets working better on nitrate.

 

[gcarroll]

I'm not running either; is this a serious question? If so, I'd like to know the answer. Would it be because you aren't running enough?

Yes, it is a very serious question.

Bacteria needs three components to replicate carbon nitrogen and phosphorus. Bacteria will continue to replicate every 30-60 minutes until one of those three items are used up. Bio pellets gives you an unlimited carbon source. This means that the only thing stopping bacteria from replicating is lack of nitrogen or phosphorus.

When phosphate runs out, you cannot remove any more nitrate.

When nitrate runs out, you cannot remove any more phosphate.

 

[gcarroll]

I don't have a nitrate issue nor a real phosphate either, but the pellets didn't really lower my phosphate like it did my nitrate. I always just chalked it up to pellets working better on nitrate.

Nope, your tank was phosphate limited. Some out there have the issue where their tank is nitrate limited.

 

[Usingthejohn]

Yes, it is a very serious question.

Bacteria needs three components to replicate carbon nitrogen and phosphorus. Bacteria will continue to replicate every 30-60 minutes until one of those three items are used up. Bio pellets gives you an unlimited carbon source. This means that the only thing stopping bacteria from replicating is lack of nitrogen or phosphorus.

When phosphate runs out, you cannot remove any more nitrate.

When nitrate runs out, you cannot remove any more phosphate.

Thanks.

I didn't know both were related

 

[SchnitzelReef]

I had issues with phosphates creeping up, even with bio pellets. Started feeding mysis/frozen food more and more and over time my phosphates started dropping. All about balancing nutrients with bio pellets.

Bio pellets really are great. Everyone loves blaming bio pellets, but any time I've ever seen issues, it's always user error.

 

[pgr11]

Nope, your tank was phosphate limited. Some out there have the issue where their tank is nitrate limited.

So your saying that I ran out of nitrate so cannot remove phosphate?

 

[Usingthejohn]

I had issues with phosphates creeping up, even with bio pellets. Started feeding mysis/frozen food more and more and over time my phosphates started dropping. All about balancing nutrients with bio pellets.

Bio pellets really are great. Everyone loves blaming bio pellets, but any time I've ever seen issues, it's always user error.

I'd have to agree. I tried it and had some fish die.

Come to find out my return turnover wasn't terribly high (it was something you pointed out when I mentioned how strong I was running my jebao)

 

[RVJ]

So what would happen if you run BP, GFO, Carbon and UV?

 

[biologicalme]

Those pellets don't work any better than other pellets. Buying them will not make your tank look any better than it looks with any other type of biopellet. Here is the same guy's tank using the original NP biopellets. No magic here, just a good reefer!
[video=youtube;V70KV_dZ9UE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V70KV_dZ9UE[/video]

Does anyone else read the articles? It mentioned this particular reefer was using regular biopellets along with GFO to control his phosphates. The new all in ones are a regular biopellet (carbon source) mixed with their "secret" phosphate reducing media. The pellets are brown not the light tan or white color we are used to. Anyway, he switched to the all in ones and got rid of his GFO and the tank still looks amazing.