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Glad to see you tried this, I'll be following along as I'm battling a small even myself.

I had a random RTN of a new tenuis, it was a small wild piece so I wrote it off as nothing. Then a few accidental frags of my RRU RTN'd but the colony is fine so far. Now a piece I've had for a while went over night basically. I cut 3 frags way above death line and they rtn one day later. Now a small homewrecker piece is about 1/2 way gone to rtn. It's super strange its solely tenuis with the issue. I've got enrofloxacin on hand maybe I'll give that a go. I've heard good things about witch hazel too. Maybe I'll give that ago.
yeah i heard about witch hazel too, but don't keep any on hand

i was kinda the same way, a death here and there. shrug shoulders and go damn and move on seems the be the way of life for acros lol, but it was happening pretty frequently lately. a couple deaths per week, so it was nice to at least have some semblance of hope. we'll see, all this stuff might just die tomorrow, but i figured night one would be the time to rtn
 
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Leaving on vacation tomorrow so I figured I’d update on the stn thing and drop some pics

I still haven’t lost any of the frags, surprisingly even the red planet ones that were sketchy frags

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so that seems cool at least idk if it’s always a fix but something to try in the future I guess

And some blued out orange filter pics for fun
The ones where Cali tort casually has a rainbow of reds is hilarious

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Leaving on vacation tomorrow so I figured I’d update on the stn thing and drop some pics

I still haven’t lost any of the frags, surprisingly even the red planet ones that were sketchy frags

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so that seems cool at least idk if it’s always a fix but something to try in the future I guess

And some blued out orange filter pics for fun
The ones where Cali tort casually has a rainbow of reds is hilarious

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Looking good man!
 

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Haha, well I got some that fit that bill. HIt me up if you're ever near garden grove. Stop by and check out the tank.
 
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Got back earlier today, tanks went mostly well

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idk how that happened but sand buried my birds of paradise and half of the mystic monti, neither of which looked excited about it

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and a couple red planet frags fell down but both look fine

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and coral qt went ok, a bit of stn on the Cali tort and asd rainbow looks like crap but no certain losses. Once I make some saltwater I’ll do another cipro bath and cut off dead areas

but no fish losses no tank crashes no massive coral losses I’ll take it

steinhart was really cool too beyond the peppermint angels, lots of cool deep water butterflies which is right up my alley. If you find yourself in the Bay Area I definitely recommend it
 
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i think the bacterial issue i had kinda made it's way to montis and anacroporas oddly enough. like this one here is clearly on the struggle, but then there's a monti cap on either side that's doing fine

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daylight pics of some of the frags i picked up from dan the acro man. this pink one to the front is nuts under blues

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and glued together a bunch of the red planet pieces. they took a green turn in my dt, so i guess that means it's lower light than i would've figured. maybe i'll have to lower the lights an inch or so

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oregon tort growing at a glacial pace :D

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pc rainbow is such a nice coral, seems whatever my par is it's just right for pc rainbow

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finally graduated monster conch to the dt. i think he hides during the day to avoid the copperband

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here's a closeup of the bubblegum digi. i like monis so i hope they make a comeback, but i'm also not freaking out much. i have another frag of bubblegum digi in the back and it looks like hell too, so i'm curious to see if the montis will make comebacks

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and some blue pics, my phone loves blue pics :LOL:

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I’m sitting waiting for my car to get smogged so I’ll do a little update

my tank scored a nice little heavy metals infestation, probably the main cause of issues lately that I falsely thought was coral qt or vibrio related. Anyway probably caused by a rusted part of my algae free scraper, fun times

I ran cuprisorb and metabsorb for a solid week and a half or so and then did two 30ish gallon water changes and then added some corals I had in qt last night

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They’re all looking solid. The setosa got a bit of stn awhile back in qt, I think from lack of light, but it doesn’t seem to be progressing

I’ll probably add a couple acro frags soon that I’ve had in qt

I think I’m also gonna cut back a bit on coral qt with acros. Everything else doesn’t have issues for the most part in there if I don’t buy way too many, but acros struggle to make it 6 weeks+. Idk how necessary it even is as tomonts were tested and can’t attach to live acro tissue so as long as I can remove them from the plug and they aren’t half bleached or something it should be quite safe. I’ll probably play this by ear, though. New cheap hardy frag I might qt just to be safe, some higher end piece maybe I’ll get them on a new plug and just put them in qt for a week or so, or maybe straight to the dt

and some fish feeding pics since they hold kinda still near the nori clip

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Love your tank, so many beautiful fish!

What would you say is your overall success rate with QTing fish? I'm asking because I don't have a very good track record of QTing fish. I would definitely like to tweak my QT process
 
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Love your tank, so many beautiful fish!

What would you say is your overall success rate with QTing fish? I'm asking because I don't have a very good track record of QTing fish. I would definitely like to tweak my QT process
thanks man, possibly too many fish lol. battling high nutrients currently as my filtration went poorly

um.. i mean when i first started trying copper i think i had a 1 for 5 qt round. i only got a yellow clown goby through. i did raise copper quickly, but idk that went bad. i even lost 2 starckis to uronema. i then went to trying 1 single h2o2 bath and then observing, but that resulted in velvet. ran a mag foxface, 2 clowns, and a yellow longnose butterfly through copper and lost the yellow longnose. i later lost the mag foxface somehow, not really sure what happened there as he was in observation and died the day after a tank move

then i started doing 2 h2o2 baths and observing with black mollies. got velvet in my dt (not sure how, pretty sure it wasn't the fault of h2o2), removed all of my fish and coppered them, and only lost i think 3 or 4 out of like 20+, most of which was too far gone from the velvet i think. later on post copper i lost quite a few to i think a bacterial issue

more recently i documented this so let me look it up

https://humble.fish/community/index.php?threads/hybrid-ttm-success-rate.4967/post-88885

well lets see i did:

flame angel, bicolor foxface, yellow wrasse, 2 clowns. they had probably a bacterial infection going into it so i did abx along with the hybrid ttm and all survived and all seem healthy a month or so later

i then did

rhomboid wrasse, pintail wrasse, 2 blue star leopard wrasses, skunk tilefish, and a blue assessor. both fairy wrasses died along with 1 of the blue star leopards. i'm not sure i'd chalk it up to hybrid ttm, the pintail was delayed in the mail an extra 24 hours and never seemed right. and the leopard never really came out to eat, but the stress of tank moves may have contributed, but hard to say. the rhomboid was just an out of the blue death, i don't really know what to chalk that one up to. so technically 3/6 on that one

and then

blackcap basslet, sunburst anthias, and a sharknose goby

all 3 survived and seem good to go, but observation is only a week or so at this point. i did have to do cipro baths on the anthias after it got a red mark, but again idk if that's hybrid ttm's fault so 3/3 there

in total: 11/14

the 3/6 group i didn't do any sort of conditioning, just straight into hybrid ttm. the other two groups were conditioned prior to treatment. the first group was extremely established (i've had some for years). the last group i conditioned for like a week before starting hybrid ttm

so once i moved to hybrid ttm i had pretty good success even factoring in the losses were probably not the fault of qt, wrasse shipped extra time, leopards are hard, and then the rhomboid was just a bummer
 

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thanks man, possibly too many fish lol. battling high nutrients currently as my filtration went poorly

um.. i mean when i first started trying copper i think i had a 1 for 5 qt round. i only got a yellow clown goby through. i did raise copper quickly, but idk that went bad. i even lost 2 starckis to uronema. i then went to trying 1 single h2o2 bath and then observing, but that resulted in velvet. ran a mag foxface, 2 clowns, and a yellow longnose butterfly through copper and lost the yellow longnose. i later lost the mag foxface somehow, not really sure what happened there as he was in observation and died the day after a tank move

then i started doing 2 h2o2 baths and observing with black mollies. got velvet in my dt (not sure how, pretty sure it wasn't the fault of h2o2), removed all of my fish and coppered them, and only lost i think 3 or 4 out of like 20+, most of which was too far gone from the velvet i think. later on post copper i lost quite a few to i think a bacterial issue

more recently i documented this so let me look it up

https://humble.fish/community/index.php?threads/hybrid-ttm-success-rate.4967/post-88885

well lets see i did:

flame angel, bicolor foxface, yellow wrasse, 2 clowns. they had probably a bacterial infection going into it so i did abx along with the hybrid ttm and all survived and all seem healthy a month or so later

i then did

rhomboid wrasse, pintail wrasse, 2 blue star leopard wrasses, skunk tilefish, and a blue assessor. both fairy wrasses died along with 1 of the blue star leopards. i'm not sure i'd chalk it up to hybrid ttm, the pintail was delayed in the mail an extra 24 hours and never seemed right. and the leopard never really came out to eat, but the stress of tank moves may have contributed, but hard to say. the rhomboid was just an out of the blue death, i don't really know what to chalk that one up to. so technically 3/6 on that one

and then

blackcap basslet, sunburst anthias, and a sharknose goby

all 3 survived and seem good to go, but observation is only a week or so at this point. i did have to do cipro baths on the anthias after it got a red mark, but again idk if that's hybrid ttm's fault so 3/3 there

in total: 11/14

the 3/6 group i didn't do any sort of conditioning, just straight into hybrid ttm. the other two groups were conditioned prior to treatment. the first group was extremely established (i've had some for years). the last group i conditioned for like a week before starting hybrid ttm

so once i moved to hybrid ttm i had pretty good success even factoring in the losses were probably not the fault of qt, wrasse shipped extra time, leopards are hard, and then the rhomboid was just a bummer
That's crazy dedication, it took me about 6 months to get 5 fish through the QT process. I ran the copper + general cure process listed on humblefish's forum, so far I have about 50% survive rate. I will look into the hybrid ttm. Thanks for the detailed reply!

Keep the updates coming! Love your tank!
 
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That's crazy dedication, it took me about 6 months to get 5 fish through the QT process. I ran the copper + general cure process listed on humblefish's forum, so far I have about 50% survive rate. I will look into the hybrid ttm. Thanks for the detailed reply!

Keep the updates coming! Love your tank!
haha my house was covered in tanks for a couple months, it sucked. but i did save most of my fish at least

https://humble.fish/community/index...basslet-sunburst-anthias-sharknose-goby.4654/

humblefish wanted people to document their hybrid ttm trials so i did a couple so people can read if they want. it gives daily updates of me freaking out when a fish behaves weird for a day :p

it's more daily work than copper qt for sure, but i think it has a bunch of other benefits, like the issue i had with the anthias in that thread
 
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I thought things were looking better but now not do much, I don’t get it. I ran cuprisorb for several days, then metabsorb for a few days, then did two 25g water changes to hopefully reset things, but even some of the corals added after the issues are looking bad, but what’s really weird is the acros mostly seem fine. Montis tho.. yikes on most montis in the tank

I sent off a triton test and they received it yesterday, but their machine is down for repairs apparently lol. So I ordered some poly filter, hopefully that’ll remove whatever cuprisorb/metabsorb missed

I got a new phone so pics hopefully won’t be as garbage lol

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these two probably show off the sliminess or whatever

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must've been quick maintenance or something as results from triton are back. i was totally figuring oh of course they had to send the machine back to germany for some fixing lol

https://www.triton-lab.de/en/showroom/icp-oes/126688

so zinc copper and iron are all down, but zinc especially is still too high. i ran cuprisorb for about a week and then swapped it out for metabsorb for 5 days, i was a bit afraid i'd strip too much, but i guess i cut it too short. so i'm going to run it for a week or so. and i have some polyfilter ordered that'll be here, so i'll add that too. i've run those before and just left them in and idk if they deplete stuff too much, but it also might remove zinc better?

it's weird to me that easy sps like montis birdsnest anacroporas are taking this worse than acros. some acros are definitely unhappy, millis and tenuis especially, but montis just taking a total dive is surprising
 
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