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Damnit. I spooked a wrasse checking on the frag I made last night. Wonder if it was the naoko. Something happened, I don’t think he was skinny enough to perish. Was eating well View attachment 93855
Damn, that sucks! Btw, I have an awesome looking filamented flasher that I need to rehome, he’s yours if you want him? I’ll text you a pic tomorrow. He was being a jerk to my McCoskers, so he’s got to go.


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Damn, that sucks! Btw, I have an awesome looking filamented flasher that I need to rehome, he’s yours if you want him? I’ll text you a pic tomorrow. He was being a jerk to my McCoskers, so he’s got to go.


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Ah that sucks but yeah I'll give him a go! That would be perfect for acclimating and introducing it and the eightline at the same time.
 

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It looks like I'm battling a tenuis specific issue as of now. My TCK supersonic is showing RTN/bleaching now as well. Bummer because that's a much smaller piece so I don't have much time to save it. I'm considering moving it down a bit although it is 1/2 down the tank. It is dead center though.

The frags of RRU Blossom aren't so hot. Most are showing TN in spots. I do see there are still polyps on two of the frags so maybe there's some hope there.
 

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Ah that sucks but yeah I'll give him a go! That would be perfect for acclimating and introducing it and the eightline at the same time.
Cool, he’s in the nano, so whenever you’re ready.


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Hmmmmm. Lost my Blue Spot Jawfish after about 2 weeks in QT. Was eating great, then I saw him breathing very heavy 2 days ago. He went for food but couldn't quite get it. When he shot out I saw a white spot on his side, eraser sized. I couldnt really see him much, I gave him a bunch of pvc fittings for cover, but the few times I could see him for a split second I thought maybe his back half looked funny. Anyway, next day he was dead. He colors were just rubbing off ( kind of a like a dead madarin) so it's hard to tell what was the cause of death.

The eightline flasher looks amazing and healthy. I'm a little torn. I've read about BSJ disease and it looks like he could line up with that. My big fear is it was uronema and maybe the wrasse just is not affected by that? I was planning on adding the flasher soon but now I'm super hesitant with clowns and anthias in the tank.

Any one know if BSJ are susceptible to uronema?


One sps front:

The survival frags I cut are toast. They held on until about 2 days ago.
I've lost a few random smaller pieces so far too. Most recent was RMF psychoberry.

Everything I'm able to test for lines up. Come the new year an ICP will get sent out. I'm a little worried by then I'll have lost some of me favorites but that's the name of the game I guess?
 

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I was also lucky enough to borrow a par meter. I found my par levels to be very high with the t5+kessils so I'm running just the t5 for the daylight and having the kessils ramp up and down for now.

With kessils a lot of these pieces were sitting in the 700 par range, so that could be part of the problem if they weren't close to that in the last system. I'm surprised with the output of the old PM, without the kessils most of that center rock is in the 500-550 range, thats just at the 1/2 depth of the tank too. All t5s on my sand bed is 260 (very front glass) to 350 range. Kessils on it was 300-400.

I hope to work back up to having the kessils on just very low for shimmer but I wont be messing with that until I see some solid health.

My uptake has dropped off by about 50% as well. So something is up across the board.
 

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Damn, sorry to hear about the jawfish. QT can be tricky and it takes a lot of time and patience. The white spot could've been bacterial or fungal? Formalin is the go to for that kinda stuff. If you suspect uronema, then you have to sterilize the QT tank and give the wrasse a freshwater dip with metro before adding it back to a sterilized QT. Uronema will stay in a tank/system indefinitely.
 
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Steady decline in the tank's acropora health. I've lost about 10 pieces so far and my CB mal colony just started to go up in smoke from the base. TGC orange creamsicle has done a weird brown/gray out thing some of the pieces did just before RTN. The evens tend to happen at night for the most part. I've left the window cracked next to the tank and that has kept the ph up a point around 7.85 which lines up normal for me.

So I'm thinking it's something bacterial or a contamination issue. I told myself I was going to send of a ICP on this rock while cycling but never did, hopefully it didn't get termite shit or had been previously used in a QT ect.

I also pulled my RODI sample from my top off container on the side of the house, that's another thing I've been suspecting. It seems like it started 1) soon after move which isn't much of a surprise but 2) when my neighbors place got tented in escrow.

I've been running carbon passively in a media cup/sock holder. I've got my chaeto reactor going with chaeto, sea lettuce and dragons tongue.

Salinity was a little low jumping between 1.025 and 1.024 but nothing major.
Temp 77.7-79F
Alk: 8.3
Cal: 440
Mag: a little high at a hair under 1500 but never had a issue with that in the past
Po4: .03 hanna
no3: salifert 5-10, i'd call it 7ppm.

TDS is zero but I may change my silica buster and DI stages to be safe. The carbon blocks and chloromine monster are pretty fresh and hopefully good.

Anyone recommend a low range chlorine test kit so I can test that on my own?


I've got algae in the tank and pods. I've noticed some dead snails and I'm not sure if that's partially the sand and landing wrong or scavenging hermits. I have noticed a few dead hermits.


Loses have mostly been tenuis but it seems like others are starting to get affected.
Gone so far:
No name rainbow tenuis
Pink Lemonade
Wild malaysian piece
WWC helios
Pyschoberry
various no namers I've had for some time

CB maleficent is probably gonna go up in smoke. base is bright white so that happened last night.
TCK Supersonic looks piiiiiised
TGC Creamsicle looks next


If my wannabe shazam piece goes up in smoke I'm going to do a witch hazel experiment, in tank treatment I've seen a few people have success with on the moonshiner's group. Maybe that will buy me time until my ICP test results?


I've started running UV, I know that is a point of debate for some. I've got it running at night for now.


LPS and softies are unaffected so far. Carpet anemone and CSB looks fine as well.



Daily I talk myself out of removing the sand. I dont think that's a real culprit but its bugging the hell out of me and I feel keeps a constant haze to the water. I may remove all but one section for the wrasses that's easily accessible, specially if I have a near crash here soon.
 

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Thats a bummer, sorry to hear. Hopefully the ICP test points to something and helps piece the puzzle together.
Pretty much! If not I guess I'm dealing with something bacterial or that we can't test for. Fingers crossed it's not a large amount of copper.
 

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Dang Matt I’m really sorry that you’re experiencing these issues. If anyone can turn it around I know you can.


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damn sorry to hear dude

i guess you could try an aquabiomics test, but best case it tells you of some scary bacteria and then.. idk what you do from there
 

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Damn, sorry to hear. Did you rinse the tank in tap water or RO a couple times before mixing up fresh saltwater? New glass tanks are notorious for having a lot of tin, which can cause a lot of problems. Run a power filter to clear up the tank until the residual sand dust gets drawn up. Removing the sand can cause more problems and create even more instability. My guess is heavy metals. Polyfilter and cuprisorb (with a little carbon) can pull out quite a bit. How’s your PO4?


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Damn, sorry to hear. Did you rinse the tank in tap water or RO a couple times before mixing up fresh saltwater? New glass tanks are notorious for having a lot of tin, which can cause a lot of problems. Run a power filter to clear up the tank until the residual sand dust gets drawn up. Removing the sand can cause more problems and create even more instability. My guess is heavy metals. Polyfilter and cuprisorb (with a little carbon) can pull out quite a bit. How’s your PO4?


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I did a test fill with tap water but I didn't scrub anything down at all. Just filled it up checked level and drained it next day. Maybe that could be it, it'll be interesting to see whats up. I'm with you, I think it's contamination of some kind as well.

If I have a total or near total crash and massive loss of sps then I may considered removing the majority of my sand otherwise I agree, no need to disturb the system more than needed.

Po4 is .03 on my hanna low range phosphate checker.


I was running polyfilters, but I should run the cuprisorb now that the test is out. I didn't want to run it and have it hide a result on the test.
 

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Dang sorry to hear that. I loved some of the pieces I got from you. I hope you figure it out soon.
Glad you liked them! A real bummer that I've been losing some that were no namers but hopefully I'll get it straightened out soon
 

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