Smite's Stout CDA - 205G

[Dorado]

Well I think drexel was right about Tin coming from the new tank itself. I should have wiped down all surfaces when I test filled it then drained it. From what I'm reading not a lot removes tin so I'm going to be doing water changes going forward.

I'm not sure on the copper and zinc yet. Some of the colonies were very large and hard to remove from the rock. I had to get in there with a hammer and chisel, also used a multitool at one point and my bone cutters have some rust on them. I checked all equipment for missing teeth or piece of themselves but maybe something got by, not 100% sure there.
My other thought is the cheap Jebao return I've been running up to this point. I planned on swapping to my m1 or a RO varios 8 but haven't got around to swapping it yet. It looked fine when I placed it in there, I ran it on my 180g for a while too.

I'm sorry to hear about all the troubles with your tank and I hope that things turn around soon for you now that you have an idea what the problem is. I'm curious now if I have some contaminates in my tank since I also have a CDA and didn't rinse the tank out. I plan on sending in an ICP soon so we'll see. Anyway, let me know if you ever need anything.

 

[drexel]

There’s a way to use a shortwave uv light to spot if tin was used to make the glass, but these flashlights aren’t cheap. The tin side will glow in uv light. The best way is to fill the tank with tap water and circulate with a return pump, then drain and refill a couple times. You could use carbon and maybe cuprisorb to help pull out the tin, maybe in conjunction with polyfilter too.


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[deaclauderdale]

There’s a way to use a shortwave uv light to spot if tin was used to make the glass, but these flashlights aren’t cheap. The tin side will glow in uv light. The best way is to fill the tank with tap water and circulate with a return pump, then drain and refill a couple times. You could use carbon and maybe cuprisorb to help pull out the tin, maybe in conjunction with polyfilter too.


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Sounds like there should be a manufactures warning label somewhere to give us a heads up on this along with proper steps on cleaning/mitigation.


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[Smite]

I'm sorry to hear about all the troubles with your tank and I hope that things turn around soon for you now that you have an idea what the problem is. I'm curious now if I have some contaminates in my tank since I also have a CDA and didn't rinse the tank out. I plan on sending in an ICP soon so we'll see. Anyway, let me know if you ever need anything.

Thank you. It sucks to have lost so many pieces but at least I have an answer and something to work towards correcting. I was worried it would pop up completely clean and I'd get stuck writing it off from transfer stress/maturity/bacterial issues.

 

[deaclauderdale]

Thank you. It sucks to have lost so many pieces but at least I have an answer and something to work towards correcting. I was worried it would pop up completely clean and I'd get stuck writing it off from transfer stress/maturity/bacterial issues.

I know you just got the test back but have you been able to implement the measure you need to address the now known problem? how are things looking now?


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[Smite]

I know you just got the test back but have you been able to implement the measure you need to address the now known problem? how are things looking now?


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All I've been able to do so far is a 40g water change and add a polyfilter so it's hard to say. The CB Mal was so far gone I don't think there was any turning it around and it's toast. I did notice my Z's prize frag was RTN yesterday morning but it's so small it could have been going already. I've noticed a bit more polyp extension on some pieces but nothing like it was in my past tank.

I mixed another 50g of neomarine. I've got another 150g box I plan to burn through. I'm shooting for 20g a day over the next 8-10 days. I struck out with cuprisorb at Tong's but I plan to add that to my media cup over the next week as well. Once I'm out of salt I'll send out another ATI ICP and see where I'm at.


There was zinc in my RODI sample that was pulled from my top off container that's outside. Seems odd but I'm gonna pull that and clean it out. I'll pull my next RODI from my main container to see if it's passing my membrane somehow. I swapped my DI stages to be safe. In the past silicates is all I've ever seen make it past my DI stage.

 

[Smite]

I drove to all my nearby LFS, non of them have the cuprisorb. I'll have to order it online. Just wrapped up a 20g water change and while I was viewing from the top I did see noticeable improvement on the pieces that are left. The TGC orange creamsicle is now a solid green instead of the weird brown/gray color and I saw more polyps out tonight.

I had been piling up the dead towards the front glass, I cleared those out along with the CB Mal colony that died. It opened the tank up, gave it a new more positive look.


Nothing like losing a bunch of pieces to make you appreciate the ones that are holding strong. These are my MVP for that reason now
Some quick top downs during water change

I can wait to see how these color up once I get my parameters in line

 

[BST310]

Again, looks amazing. I know the loss totally sucks.

But maybe a blessing in disguise open up some space for some new additions. Dig your positive spin on things!

 

[Not an IT guy]

Super nice pieces. That Millie is sheeeeeeee lol.

 

[Smite]

Jeesh , still losing some pieces. Ive added a poly filter and recently cuprisorb. Hopefully that’ll straighten the tank out. So far it’s solely acropora.

I picked up these bad ass lps from a local reefer. I just can’t get over the favia. These are blue but daylight is just as good. The blue raven micro blastos are badass too.

My gigantea continues to improve with feedings + keeping the female away until it’s done eating. It was bleached before, the coloration is much more solid now.

my jawbreaker is showing hints of green now. It’s split was covered in green but decided to float away randomly on my last system. I never found it.

 

[BST310]

That favia is nice!! Does said reefer have more frags of it?

 

[Smite]

That favia is nice!! Does said reefer have more frags of it?

Not sure, I'll find the thread and tag you in it. I'm blanking his username, reef something or other. I've bought some acros in the past that were very nice, his LPS is just as healthy.

 

[BST310]

Not sure, I'll find the thread and tag you in it. I'm blanking his username, reef something or other. I've bought some acros in the past that were very nice, his LPS is just as healthy.

I found it and will hit him up, thanks! Your picture really shows the green on it, did not even really notice on the OPs pics.

 

[Smite]

It's very nice, I'll take a daylight picture tomorrow. I was really happy with the coloration under my daylight spectrum.

 

[Smite]

Getting my ass handed to me over here.

I ran cuprisorb for a few days. I pulled that momentarily and dosed Detox by Triton @ 3ml/100l. That's a 3 day treatment, so Friday I'll be doing a 40g water change and adding carbon and cuprisorb back in. I'll wait a week then shoot out another ICP and see what's doing what.

 

[mattyzang]

Damn sucks to see

probably bacterial issue? Although I will say metals have like a delayed effect ime

 

[Emac909]

Getting my ass handed to me over here.
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I ran cuprisorb for a few days. I pulled that momentarily and dosed Detox by Triton @ 3ml/100l. That's a 3 day treatment, so Friday I'll be doing a 40g water change and adding carbon and cuprisorb back in. I'll wait a week then shoot out another ICP and see what's doing what.

Daaaaam

You have high heavy metals?

I tested really high heavy metals after setting up the 187g. Then a few weeks later I made a fresh batch of salt and the water looked like it had rust on the sides of the barrel. I’m really starting to believe that there’s something happening and there’s a coverup in this hobby.

A a lot of salt manufactures where out of stock for a bit and it’s been kinda rolling around. Like one month this this manufacturer will be out of stock. Then the next month is a different manufacturer.
B Then I’ve been seeing lots of people claiming they are getting heavy metals on ICP test.
Something is just smelling funny

 

[drexel]

Sorry Matt, that sucks for sure! With these events there's always delayed reaction, sometimes weeks, even months will go by and poof. Hopefully between the detox, cuprisorb and w/c, you'll back on track soon.
Eric, it may be source water and some things slipping through RO/DI? But I think in Matt's case, it was primarily tin from the new glass (float glass). When I started my 90g, it was a combo of not rinsing the new tank and a rusty magnet from a frozen feeder holder. Tin, copper and nickel were through the roof.

 

[Smite]

Daaaaam

You have high heavy metals?

I tested really high heavy metals after setting up the 187g. Then a few weeks later I made a fresh batch of salt and the water looked like it had rust on the sides of the barrel. I’m really starting to believe that there’s something happening and there’s a coverup in this hobby.

A a lot of salt manufactures where out of stock for a bit and it’s been kinda rolling around. Like one month this this manufacturer will be out of stock. Then the next month is a different manufacturer.
B Then I’ve been seeing lots of people claiming they are getting heavy metals on ICP test.
Something is just smelling funny

I've been tempted to send out an ICP on my mixed water. I got a bunch of boxes of neomarine during the MD liquidation and had that thought. Maybe I'll send one off and check my barrel. I was very surprised with how low my uptake was since setting this tank up that my bromine and iodide had bottomed out so bad.

 

[Smite]

Sorry Matt, that sucks for sure! With these events there's always delayed reaction, sometimes weeks, even months will go by and poof. Hopefully between the detox, cuprisorb and w/c, you'll back on track soon.
Eric, it may be source water and some things slipping through RO/DI? But I think in Matt's case, it was primarily tin from the new glass (float glass). When I started my 90g, it was a combo of not rinsing the new tank and a rusty magnet from a frozen feeder holder. Tin, copper and nickel were through the roof.

I did have that weird zinc reading in my RODI. I don't recall seeing it elevated in my tests for the full panel, I'll have to look. One of the reasons I didn't just start doing large water changes when I first saw issues was it burned me in the past with the RODI being an issue.

Most my frags are dead on the rack so maybe I'll remove that to be safe, that's the only thing other than the tunze that have magnets in there.