For all you Biopellet doubters

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So what would happen if you run BP, GFO, Carbon and UV?
If you run regular biopellets they will feed bacteria that will reduce your nitrates, GFO will remove phosphates and finally your carbon will reduce organics. The UV...well it doesn't do much other than polish the water.
 
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So what would happen if you run BP, GFO, Carbon and UV?
I did that, also filter socks, DSB, mangrove + seagrass refugium, ozone, 10% water changes every 2 weeks... I got very tired
 
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wow, a whole 3 months? Ive only seen a few controlled attemps to calculate improved anything from biopellets. And even fewer comparing that do vodka, vinegar, fish poop, etc.

Sure there is a quick answer to what does "this" do? Well, as posted above what do "this" & "that" do together. Chemical reactions do not happen in isolation.

I did EVERYTHING currently en vogue in terms of filtration. Then i took them away 1 by 1. Now im down to filter socks & WCs. The only thing that constantly made an improvement was the amount of effort & elbow grease i put in. If theres magic unicorn in filtration im not smart enough to isolate it.
 
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I did that, also filter socks, DSB, mangrove + seagrass refugium, ozone, 10% water changes every 2 weeks... I got very tired
that's hilarious...ROFL

If you run regular biopellets they will feed bacteria that will reduce your nitrates, GFO will remove phosphates and finally your carbon will reduce organics. The UV...well it doesn't do much other than polish the water.
Nice thanks...
 
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Does anyone else read the articles? It mentioned this particular reefer was using regular biopellets along with GFO to control his phosphates. The new all in ones are a regular biopellet (carbon source) mixed with their "secret" phosphate reducing media. The pellets are brown not the light tan or white color we are used to. Anyway, he switched to the all in ones and got rid of his GFO and the tank still looks amazing.
And before that he was using Zeovit. Bottom line it's a commercial for the product.

Waht about those people who are Phosphate limited and have uncontrollable nitrate? That's right, it does not work!
 
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If you run regular biopellets they will feed bacteria that will reduce your nitrates
Partial answer. Without phosphate, nitrate cannot be reduced!

GFO will remove phosphates
Correct! However, without phosphate the biopellets will not play a role in reducing nitrate.

finally your carbon will reduce organics.
Correct!

The UV...well it doesn't do much other than polish the water.
Like ozone, it breaks down organics by oxidizing them therefore making them more skimmable, also more likely to be absorbed by various media.
 

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Gcarroll is correct. You really do need to understand the dynamics of biopellets before you start utilizing them. Like any measure in a tank, it can be very beneficial (or not). Lots of factors intertwine to get a tank optimized. Nutrient control is just one aspect.

Nitrates and phosphates can be controlled in many ways. Feeding, number and size of fish, substrates (and there are lots: rock, sand, ceramics and each has pros/cons), skimmer, pellets, water changes, algae, refugiums, gfo, carbon, all of these can and do play a role in nutrient control. Both too much or too little has its own list of issues. No easy, short solutions atleast not for me. The ecology in a tank shifts for a multitude of reasons sometimes slowly and sometimes overwhelmingly fast. It's trying and often frustrating to understand what's happening and responding accordingly

I don't utilize biopellets but I am not a naysayer. It's fun to have fat fish and pellets help in that regard. I don't think biopellets necessarily lead to the best color or healthiest coral but integrated into your reef keeping it may be beneficial. Of course if I knew more, my tank would be highlighted. I have my reef up and prospering for periods of time but unfortunately also suffer through some less prosperous times

So far I don't know of any panacea for guaranteeing a successful sps tank and I am pretty convinced pellets are not the panacea. I just keep on trying.
 
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So Greg, in your opinion, should biopellets alone take care of phosphates if nitrate is where it needs to be (balanced?)? I've been using biopellets and get "undetectable" nitrates, but I use gfo to lower my phosphates. I'm guessing something is off balance?

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So Greg, in your opinion, should biopellets alone take care of phosphates if nitrate is where it needs to be (balanced?)? I've been using biopellets and get "undetectable" nitrates, but I use gfo to lower my phosphates. I'm guessing something is off balance?

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I know I'm not Greg, but I had the same problem. I stopped feeding pellets as often, and I'm feeding ALOT more mysis and my phosphates dropped big time.

Maybe something u could try
 
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I know I'm not Greg, but I had the same problem. I stopped feeding pellets as often, and I'm feeding ALOT more mysis and my phosphates dropped big time.

Maybe something u could try
we want gregs opinion not the weiner slingers. Whats Gregs quote on the other forum. Something to the effect of don't listen to peoples advice who wont show the goods? lol. Your shnitzlevision makes pics impossible to see the results.

Jaykay I love you
 
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I know I'm not Greg, but I had the same problem. I stopped feeding pellets as often, and I'm feeding ALOT more mysis and my phosphates dropped big time.

Maybe something u could try
How often do you feed? And is your GFO reactor still offline or did you set it up? I'd be interested in trying this out more. One less thing to deal with.
 
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we want gregs opinion not the weiner slingers. Whats Gregs quote on the other forum. Something to the effect of don't listen to peoples advice who wont show the goods? lol. Your shnitzlevision makes pics impossible to see the results.

Jaykay I love you
Hey nowww. My pics are getting better


**i didn't say good, I said better ** lol
 
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How often do you feed? And is your GFO reactor still offline or did you set it up? I'd be interested in trying this out more. One less thing to deal with.
It's setup, but I've never even used it. Still brand new. I've been feeding spectrum in the morning. (Usually just a little bit) and 2-3 cubes of mysis at night. I'm not religious about feeding, but I do try to do it at least once a day. If I'm busy, I'll do just pellets. When I was having my phosphate problem, I was doing pellets 1-2 X a day, and mysis once or twice a week. So I've bumped up the meaty foods quote a bit. I'm assuming this is causing me to have higher nitrates, which in turn allow the bacteria to consume more phosphates. (This is just my theory, no science to back it up)
 

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